And that three 56sqn Hurricane pilots shot a Dornier17Z down on the beach at Whitstable in Kent. Seconds later, the engine of one burst into flames and he made a split-ass belly landing nearby, tripping into a cowpat in his haste to leave his burning aircraft. He was the only one of the airmen involved in that action to survive the war…
52 years later I nearly killed my stupid self on its bomb load…
RIP all of you.
At risk of derailing all this Yakking, what’s the little parasol wing puddle-jumper behind it in the last piccy?
Always good to see Lashenden *pedant hat off* mentioned (well, except in the case of tragic accidents). I went to school at East Sutton and we used to be able to watch the Islander climbing up to deposit yet another stick of parachutists over Kent.
Adrian
I have to ask… Is the sig a self-composition in honour of a nasty moment, or is it something you found?
Adrian
Utterly from memory, so probably a bad call, but I’ll put it up to be popped at anyway.
Wasn’t it at least in part that, until the loss of XA897 at Heathrow, no-one had really considered the problems of aircrew exit from the rear seats? I think they actually had to unstrap and climb out and, in the event of anything going pear-shaped anywhere near the runway this just wasn’t feasible. It probably wasn’t feasible anywhere in flight unless the aircraft was reasonably straight and level, and you don’t tend to have that happening when you need to leave…
Adrian
They’re in the wrong order – the Bofors pic should come immediately after the Jungmann! :diablo:
Other than that, not bad – especially for a non-dustbins-on-the-end photographer!
Adrian
Great pics, and I love the pun in your business title!
Next time you are shooting “period” photos of German aircraft and aircrew, I can lend you my period Zeiss-Ikon Box Tengor for a very reasonable fee… :diablo:
Adrian
Apologies for kicking a moribund thread – does being dead a week make it a zombie thread yet?
Steve,
I really cannot be sure where any items from the EAG ended up after I left. I do remember a vague comment by an interested party, that much ended up with a private collection near Epping.Perhaps the items from the Fjord were spread about to several museums? On the display board for the surviving fin at Duxford it mentions who recovered the items, but I fail to remember who by myself.
I have unearthed my copy of the EAG’s information book.
According to that, the Heinkel parts I remember – I recall a rear fuselage section, though as I was an anklebiter at the time I can’t be sure – came from the IWM itself. Presumably these, then, have been returned to the IWM?
The aircraft itself was a bit of an enigma – supposedly an He111E that crashed onto the frozen Storvatnet lake in Norway in April 1940 following an engine fire. However it was wearing markings that did not appear until September 1940, and did not have the E version’s elliptical wing. A google tells me that After the Battle No 6 carried an article and pics of the recovery – anyone got one lurking?
I’ve also found these – the fin and an engine are still at DX. There is a suggestion that the rest was scrapped – possibly all it was fit for after all those years outside, I fear, but the thread that post linked to has died.
http://www.worldwar2database.com/html/battle_of_britain9.html
http://www.worldwar2database.com/html/battle_of_britain10.html
Does that help, or just muddy the waters?
Adrian
Coincidentally, a report appeared just the other day in the Ringing World about the dedication of a new bell at Parham, Suffolk, to the men who flew from there during WW2. I’m not sure why it took so long to appear, as it happened over a year ago – as you can tell by the sunny photos! – but two related links here:
http://www.390th.org/bulletin/fall2006/AReturnToParham.htm
http://www.390th.org/bulletin/fall2006/ParhamVisit.htm
You can add me to the list of people who’d like to meet you – if everyone buys a pint, you may have enough beer on the bar to see you out!
Adrian
They were’nt very impressed apparently.
That may get a prize for the understatement of the year!
How on earth did anyone manage to confuse an immersion heater with a doodlebug? Then again, the first magnetic mine “captured” in 1940 was mistaken for one (the Heinkel carrying it crashed into a house in Clacton-on-Sea, IIRC) until someone realised the “water tank” had no pipes running in or out of it… But water heaters don’t have wings, motor…
:confused: :confused: :confused:
Adrian
I read James Cracknall’s article about the Red Bull Air Race in the sports section of the Telegraph yesterday. In it he talked about how the practise and qualifying sessions were nearly cancelled after the discovery of the ‘bomb’ in docklands, but that apparently it was a concrete dud planted as part of an exercise back in the 60’s.
The plot thickens!
Adrian
That’s certainly another possibility, and it would have penetrated deeply. On the other hand, there would be a lot of associated debris – especially a sodding great cast iron motor – unless the whole thing went in to soft soil?
There is a lot more to this than we are ever going to find out, methinks. And not in a Dan Brown sense either – just in a “news snippet of interest largely to us” way.
Adrian
Good point Andy – given the usual accuracy of the media, and Ms Toppings effort in the Garuniad…
Dave might have got a good point – if it was in a basin, the bang would be contained and directed upwards, rather than spoiling all those nice floodplain developments. Bet the story has vanished, and we never will find out what really happened…
Adrian
Some of the bits are/were at Spains Hall, they were presented to Sir John Ruggles Brise, he showed them to me once during one of his epic guided tours, I definately remember handling a really shiny piston from the Merlin.
Did you know he passed away earlier this year, I worry for the future of the house and it’s amazing contents, aviation or otherwise.
By the way, I don’t miss living in Finchingfield one bit.
Incidentally, did anyone excavate the real Heinkel 111 that the Hurricane shot down, I believe it was somewhere near Gainsford End.
That doesn’t suprise me at all – especially given that Sir John was in the Ack-ack during WW2, so he’d have been interested.
Yes, I knew he had gone – a shame, a gentleman in the old sense of the word.
Are you sure about the Heinkel? I thought the Spains Hall Hurricane was an OTU machine from Debden?
Adrian
Bu**er! Ich bin in idiot!
I’ll get me coat…
Adrian
😮 😮 😮
A bit small for Cees, methinks, but interested to see that the chap wants what seems a sensible price for it. If it was my sort of thing, I’d take a punt. Meanwhile *cups hands to mouth* CEES! OVER HERE!
Adrian