Watch your email, gents – on it’s way.
Adrian
You lucky beggar, Pete! Any chance you can hold up a sign to Gt Sampford next time they come by, please my Dad?
Adrian
Bad news – apart from a photocopy from “Blitz then & now” I have none of the info at my lodgings. I hope to be able to look for it at my parents tomorrow, but it will probably now be the very end of the month or the beginning of September before I get them to you.
The asterisk machine will not let me express how annoyed with myself I am…
Adrian
😮 😮
Wow, if only there’d been an internet when I was researching the damn thing in the early 1990s!
That appears to be them, Geoff – I remember Genter & Hirsch. I have one of their cigarette lighters – if only it was named I could have tried to find family but it isn’t. They are all in a single grave – given what happened and the remains I found, I’m not surprised at all.
Mein Deutsch ist kleine (apologies to Nils for mangling his language!) but enough to work out the details, especially with a dictionary. Want to be included with Nils when I pass the details on?
Adrian
Geoff is spot on – all 4 crew KIA. I never did find the graves. Off the top of my head I cannot remember who they were although Morch/Morich and Muller come to mind.
Shot down by F.W. Higginson of 56 Squadron – hit by return fire, and crash landed his Hurricane nearby.
I’m going to dig out the paperwork I have and send scans to Nils – I think I have your email already, Geoff, so I can include you in.
ADrian
Nils,
I have shoebox under one of my bookshelves full of bits from a Do17Z of (I think) 3/KG2 shot down on August 16th 1940. It is NOT Herr Moellenbrok’s (sorry – don’t know how to add an Umlaut) aircraft as the crew all died in it. However (a) he might know something about it and (b) if you are interested in the action of that day I have a superb report full of derring-do from a local newspaper of the crash. If you are interested PM me and I’ll look up the correct detaisl and scan the article. HOWEVER I am away for a fortnight as of this weekend so it may take a little time!
Adrian
I didn’t know any “other” magazines were available 😉
Paul F
Wassamatter? Too short to reach the top shelf?
:diablo: :dev2:
Adrian
I didn’t know any “other” magazines were available 😉
Paul F
Wassamatter? Too short to reach the top shelf?
:diablo: :dev2:
Adrian
“Buzzing the Officer’s Mess at Seletar May 59”
B***** me! Shouldn’t that go in “How low can you go?” as well?
Adrian
Whilst I did once have a sig relating to this fable, I think you might be confusing me with Alastair George and his
“W/C D Bader . On holiday Skegness 1941 . Honestly .”
Moggy
Opens mouth just long enough to remove foot and apologise….
😮 😮 😮 😮 😮
Adrian
Sorry, Lion Rock – I seem to have hijacked your thread! This was NOT my intention – I just wondered if they were the same machine. Good luck in your quest!
😮
Adrian
Well at least it explains some flamin’ cryptic sigs Moggy (? – was it you? or am I blaming you unfairly?) had a while back!
Adrian
(My Dad met Bader in a hairdressers in Saffron Walden once – claim to fame? Was he ever based at Debden?)
DEFINITELY not the same one then – I wasn’t even a twinkle in 1967! Wouldn’t mind knowing what did happen to that one, though!
Adrian
That’s not the Meteor that used to be at Chelmsford ATC is it? I remember passing it in the car when I was a mite quite often – certainly a Night Fighter, in all-over silver without any other markigs IIRC.
Adrian
And what on earth happened to the props in that photo (or are we seeing wide-angle lens distortion)?
Almost certainly taken with a shutter that works like an aperture iris (you need to look through a camera lens and play with an aperture to really see what happens). Because the shutter opens outwards as a series of petals, then closes again likewise, the spinning props have moved while it opens, so the blades are recorded on film at very slightly different times for different bits of the prop – hence the illusion of distortion.
Think those very early photos of cars with the wheels leaning forwards – that’s a similiar artefact of a focal plane shutter that works like a sliding door.
Adruian