There might be a piece on this in Charles Sims’ book “Camera in the Sky”, though it might not be the same year.
Adrian
(as I don’t have the book to hand, I can’t check title, author, etc, so apologies if I’ve got it wrong)
It got plugged on Look East, and the East Anglian Daily Times had a report yesterday…
Adrian
That’s great – thank you!
Adrian
Be assured, if there is any information published, we’ll report it here.
DCW
PM incoming…
Adrian
If you are in the Saffron Walden area, Julian’s article on this crash has just been published in the Saffron Walden Historical Society journal. Having read it myself, I can say that it is an interesting read!
Adrian
Indeed, Andy – I’m not sure why they go for that scenario, or where the information came from. You know far more about these things than I do, but unless there was an independent report eg from a boat crew who saw it crash it surely has to come either from the crew who shot it down – I think it is unclear who they where – or from the surviving crew themselves, who probably weren’t in the best of mental states to give a clear and detailed analysis of what happened. It will be very interesting to see what the dataplate says when they find it, and which aircraft it might be if they aren’t right.
Do you know how much footage there is from Seasalter? and, if I may be impertinent, is there any news on your involvement with the Seasalter crew – feel free to PM me if you’d rather not say here.
Adrian
The one near the runway threshold is big – nearly as big as the Lancasters, but twin engined. Might it be a Warwick? I suspect with the broad chord wing that the Dornieresque machine is a Whitley, but I await better-informed people with interest!
Adrian
Thanks for posting that, Robert – I enjoyed it! Whilst there were some old friends in the archive footage (and a few Heinkels), I thought the selection was good, the use of CGI carefully restricted (ie there wasn’t too much!), and for a 25 minute program it was paced well.
What was exciting was to see more footage of a KG2 Dornier wreck on mudflats – which I’m almost certain is the one that crashed at Seasalter on August 13th (anyone else agree?) – I’d love to see the rest of the film. I have also checked the dates, and (assuming the RAF Museum are right – which I notice has exercised a few people here) it was indeed lost the day that Debden was bombed – my father remembers the parachutes and general brouhaha, and his nth cousin apprehended a German airman at shotgun-point that day. So it’s a tangible link to that day – I’m itching for them to succeed!
Adrian
(just keeping this on the front page :-))
There has been huge interest in the forthcoming 8th Air Force Tribute Flypast on Monday 27th May (Memorial Day in the USA and UK Bank Holiday Monday)
Count me as hugely interested. My father grew up under skies full of RAF and USAAF aircraft, but sadly is now too frail to handle the crowds at a Duxford airshow. If they are coming anywhere near Debden, as the article in Aeroplane(?) suggests, Mum could get him there to see them…
Adrian
In the mid-to late 1990s (I’m fairly certain I came across it first sometime between 1990 and 1993, and then once again visiting the area sometime after about 1997) there was a small scrapyard-cum-collection on a roadside in Kent. I have a feeling it was in the Biddenden area. I know I’ve mentioned it on here before, and I have a feeling other members have – it was easy to spot from the road as it had a small steam engine stood there, and a large radial engine busy turning into Daz. Under the roadside hedge was the complete power unit of a crashed V1, plus other parts that memory doesn’t identify any more.
Anyone else remember it, know where it was, what became of the stuff etc?
Adrian
I suspect that at least part of the logic is that the air will be still enough for the Edwardians to fly – which is worth the price of admission alone, watching them go up diddley up up etc. Plus the light is so nice as it gets towards sunset. Lovely shiny silver aeroplanes basking in the evening sun… delicious! There’s not a lot of traffic for OW either – I’ve never had to queue even on a show day.
Adrian
Not a great deal of historic activity within sight lately, but Wednesday evening was brightened up by G-PIGY trundling rotundly over North Oxford several times. Amazing what having a picture of something on your wall as a kid can do for your feelings towards it!
Adrian
I was there on the Saturday with the other half, who was busy getting the flyleaf of her mum’s copy of “The Dam Busters” defaced! Our first visit to Aces High but not the last, especially if we ever get somewhere with walls to hang stuff on.
I was tickled by the way the various gentlemen there were happy to pose for photos, but all insisted on taking their glasses off first!
Adrian
Hi Adrian, I was a very minor part of the recovery operation and the Wellington was complete and in one piece before the lift. It fell apart after the frame collapsed. The frame you see in the photo on this thread was made up very quickly locally and allowed the recovery to continue.
Thanks for correcting me on that – obviously I’ve conflated R-Robert with something else entirely. To my astonishment, I found the video – taken off the beeb in about 1992 – the other day, and it is still watchable, so I really must do so again!
Adrian
(who also appears to have been talking spheroids about the Dornier emerging as the sands shifted. Moral of story – treat all I say with caution!)
Always thought it rather appropriate that the last 3 Dambusters should be a Brit, an Antipodean and a North American.
If all has gone well, they should be on these shores right now, seeing as they are doing a signing at Aces High tomorrow!
Adrian
(tickets booked!)