Considering she has a displacement between 7 and 7.5 k/tons she is not a little ship.
All the other destroyers that the RN have at the moment are appx 3 to 3.5 k/tons.

IMHO I think she looks the doggies danglies!

Bomberboy

pardon not to nit pick but the t42 are 5.5k the t23 5.6K and the t22 5.2K

well according to wikapidia the British its port and starbord crews for the SSBNs
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ballistic_missile_submarine

I appreciate that it isn’t a destroyer. When I asked what name you preferred, perhaps I should have asked what name you thought would best reflect reality – because that’s what I meant. I didn’t express myself clearly.

CGH seems reasonable, because I don’t think being able to operate a handful of F-35s, inefficiently (low operational tempo, very limited T/O weight, deck damage caused by jets), is quite enough to qualify it as a CVL – yet. If they stick a ski-jump on, & make sure the deck can take the jet exhaust, then it’d change things. Maybe they have a conversion plan, for the first refit, by which time the F-35B will be ready for service. 😀

From the published drawings, it appears that the aft lift should be able to accomodate an F-35B, but the forward lift is too narrow. Nicely fits an SH-60J with rotors folded. Both lifts are the same length. One drawing shows 11 helicopters in the hangar (1 EH-101 & 10 SH-60), & it looked as if there was room for a few more – assuming the hangar layout was correct. Hiroshi Nagata, former chief of the Maritime Staff Office, has been quoted by the Asahi Shimbun as saying it is suitable for tilt-rotors. V-22 AEW, anyone?

just thinking allowed the jet exhaust should be any were near as big a problem as it was on the harrier as the cool air from the lift fan should make the amount of heat on deck from the jet engine to be cooler.

could a temporary surface be placed on deck so JSFs could be operated without torching the deck 😉

I agree, as I mentioned, it was really only in reference to the lower costs. The reality is that they would not have the capacity, and there are serious concerns about their yards’ quality control, which has led to some pretty worrying build quality on some of their ships.

In reality, it might not be too insane to actually have someone else build the basic hulls, but ‘green’, i.e. not really fitted out, just wired for it. The UK yards (and French ones in the case of PA2) then put on the flight deck and island, and fit the whole ship out. It would be politically untenable, however, but it would probably save a fair amount of money. I am even tempted to think it would be better to simply have France actually build the basic hulls, then have them all fitted out in the UK.

The ADS does, however, seem to be a lot of ship, for not too much money, especially if given cats, and ideally Rafales (naval Typhoons or Rhinos being too much to hope for). Two dozen Rafales, a few Hawkeyes, and it will make the Vikramaditya look like a poor imposter! :diablo:

hasn’t alredy been done with smaller ships weren’t the ANZACs bulit in germany and fitted out in AUS? and wasn’t there a smilar arangement in NZ for the MRV

Seriously though, i heard that in 1982 there was talk behind closed doors of loaning the RN a CVF, does anyone have concrete info on this?

from what i heard it was more of a commdo carrier than a real CV

theres a thread about on http://63.99.108.76/forums/index.php?showtopic=18681&hl=falklands

Hi! third cat, why not? you would have fit it at the bow or on the angled deck?
x

i personaly thought the bow could do with another cat closer to the brige.

p.s it seems to be getting closer to the 1st steel to be cut

Some quick research on the Net revealed that the IAC are still operating 7 out of the 8 Alouette III helicopters which they first took delivery in November 1963 – and probably won’t finally retire them until the IAC takes final delivery of the rest of their AW-139s
Can anyone tell me if there are any other helis as old as these, specifically turbine aircraft, in service in any other air arm around the world? The S-61 and CH-46 do spring to mind.

the candain sea kings are about as old and should have been replaced ages ago. i think the austrians have simlarly old Alouette III in servise

are the super frelons staying in service for the time being or are the NH90 replacing them