you know it could still happen be bulit as a STOVL carrier then buy f35c and change it into a real carrier. the problem is the joint force harrier which will be carried on into the JSF program. joint force Commado was a good idea but not to sure about joint force harrier is.
but the most important thing is that the carriers are being built.
when do you think the 1st steel will be cut
it starting to remind me bit of a cross between CVN-21 and the Kitty Hawk class especaliy the the CTOL pics
the CVF weighs about the same as well [okay its a little smaller]. 🙂
also CVF should it classed be a supercarrier as it weighs about the same as the Forrestal
im disleixic which means i can’t spell !
it a tiny fleet i wonder if thy have enough escorts for the rottodams LPD they operate or are they hope-ing that there hi value assects are operating in a mulit-national fleet
also how many su33 could gorskhov operate as it is hard pressed to fit more than 20 mig 29k planes on board.
the CVF is just finishing off the negotion and the french and the UK will have 3 74.000 ton carriers
they way you say it tin wing you make it sound like india got mugged and forced to help russian defece industrey. wouldn’t it have been better for the indians to buy on old tarwa class LHA i know it isn’t a proper carrier but nore is gorshkhov.
it would be an extra deck so they could keep viraat in servives untill the indgenes carrier is in servise. would this have been do able in the indiean time fram
the indians are buy a used car with no servise history from a dodgy area with a huge problems and a vage promise from the owner it ill be as good as new when you have it :diablo:
the reson why i brought up the the angled flight dexk was because i could immagen a forristal insdent happering on the carrier i.e unshulded landing of a mig just as an other is powering up with shackeld wheels. landing plane can’t stop quick enough and plows into the plane with the resulting explosion
thank goodness for the C17 could be much more diffuclt get aircraft into Mount Pleasant.
thanks! do you have a more upto date hanger drawing and plane placemet do you think gorskhov will be able to carry troops like viraat
i still have problems about its reliablitity as in 1994, following a boiler room explosion, the ship was docked for a year of repairs. Although she returned to service in 1995, she was finally withdrawn in 1996 and offered for sale.
which means the indians would have to have a new engine room if they like it or not.
Kuznetsov also have had lots of proper refits which hasn’t done it much good with all the fires and other problems which has plaged this vessle which was only built 3 years after gorskhov yet has to do a full tour in its whole servise life
also a coparison with US and western carriers is pointless conseredring the diffrent condions the diffrent carriers were in and the mid 90s neglect when the russians were bankrupt which won’t have done gorskhov any good.true it wasn’t as bad for gorskhov http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/NAVY/Images/Gorshkov4.jpg i would love to know were all those fighter are going it seems incredubley full with 18 migs and 6 helos post refit
snake 65 do you have any sorces for that figuer because i haven’t seen it anywere on the net
also nobody has answered my safty concerserns with with a shackled mig 29 having to move quickily when an unsheduled landing happens. i can see a big problem there and makes to me seems as dangerous as a single axis carrier taking STOBAR or CATOBAR and redueses the angle flight deck saftey margin .
also how will the indiens deal with bird strikes and other problems with planes in flight i would harly expect them to ask the planes to fly untill the deck is free. or would they?
the crap load of eletroinces added effected the performance
it still seems to be giving in effect the performance of a 20k carrier in the hull of a 40k i know its a bit of a genralisation.
i thought long distances wasn’t that important as india didn’t have the postering or the assects to peform exepadioarly warfare as it has neither the assects nore the inclation.
i also thought gorskhov would be that much more effcent cold war engines aren’t at the cutting edge unlike PdA or GG.
so i feel the indians have a bad ship with the same poor relibaility
but Argentina hasn’t bought any mill stuff for ages which means they might buy lots or they are still in a shakey situatuion
it will go though! this always happen with big programes under a new labor goverment they will argue a bit then thought it will go and the RN will have two 74.000 thousand ton carriers
stay positive people