3. boulton-paul bobolink competitor to Snipe for contract for Camel replacement.
I have thoroughly enjoyed looking these up. Thanks Stormbird!
6. Yak 24U
1. Roe triplane
7. caudron GIV
9. Vickers FB12
10. Caproni Vizzola F5
No. 3 has the ground stance and proportions of a Sopwith Snipe, but the fuselage and ‘N’ struts are wrong
I can’t agree more – this would be a really good idea. I did mention the possibility on a thread started by Andy Sephton about potential improvements/attractions at OW in the winter last year, but got no reply.
Jim
Stormbird,
Thanks, you were right about no. 10, I missread the question!!
Lahm was the first military passenger on a Wright Biplane
1. Samuel Manley in his aerodrome
2. John t. daniels, Kill devil Life saving station, it was his first ever photograph!
3. Tranja Vuia,1906, not succesful!
4. Albert Santos Dumont, born in Brazil, he won a prize to take off from St. Cloud, round the Eifel tower and return in a dirigible
5.Horatio Phillips
6.1907, Hammondsport , New York, Alexander Graham Bell
7. Henri Farman, born in England
8. I can’t find a reference, but in the back of my dim memory banks, I seem to remember Glenn Curtiss
9.Wright 1908 flyer, $25,000 plus $5,000 bonus
10. Frank Purdey Lahm. 6min, 24 sec Became the second officer to solo a u.s.army plane, died a Brigadier General in 1966
According to Setright’s book ‘the power to fly’, the rear airscrew was much more efficient than the front, so to balance out the power, the rear engine drove the front airscrew and the supercharger for both units, whilst the front engine drove the rear airscrew. Both airscrews were driven by hollow shafts with the power takeoff at the centre between the banks. James, however, states that one of the principle problems in setting up the engine was adjusting the pitch of each airscrew to enable them to run at the same speed, adding to the carburation problems that took three years and the loss of two planes and pilots to solve before the record in 1934
Just how independent the motors were is a matter of some confusion. James states in ‘Schenider trophy aircraft’ p. 242 that they were independent mechanically , the only common link being the connected throttles, but , crucially, that the ‘induction and ignition units were common’. If you look at the picture in Gunstons book on page 133, you can see that the magnetos were driven from the rear engine as well as the supercharger, so presumably the start sequence would have had to have been rear engine first, front engine second. If the rear motor failed….. In the photo that Mike posted the magnetos are not in place, just the mountings for them on the left under the supercharger which look like grey sugar scoops.
Edit:
Cancel some of the above! If you look carefully at photos of the complete engine at the back of James’ book, you can see the magnetos driven from the nose of the front engine – so the ignition sytems were independent
JDK,
Many thanks for the link to Pathe – one could get lost for hours in their archive! An absolutely astonishing source of information. The clip you found was fascinating for many reasons, but the sound clip that I have for the MC72 is very different to the background sound on the newsreel which is at constant pitch all the way through. I will try and find it again and post the link if I do.
JIm
Mike,
Thanks for the additional pics. Stunning stuff. In my opinion these are much more informative and emotive of the place and aircraft than those of the MC72 in this months edition of the mag we are not supposed to mention on this site (although they did show the cockpit)
any more? (OK I might just be considered greedy but….)
JIm
Mike,
Fantastic shots thanks for posting them – I have a real interest in the Schneider trophy and they have made me want to visit this museum!
Do you have any more pictures of the motors, particularly the AS6?
About a year ago I found a short recording ( 2 sec) that was supposed to be of the MC72 at full throttle, but I am afraid I don’t have the URL for it. I have a copy on my PC but I don’t know how I could post it here
Jim
1. Merlin 1
2. Merlin II
As with most of us it would seem, my Dad. He took my twin brother and I to Old Warden when we were about 6 in 1968 and carried on taking us until we got our own transport. My brother and I now take him to OW for the pageant each year as a treat and a continuing thankyou for the interest he sparked in us for all things mechanical (preferably at least 50+ years old). Dad got his interest from living near Dunsfold Airfield during the war – he can remember seeing many different planes in that time, including a B17 returning from a mission very low with virtually no vertical tail left, although most were B25’s. He then run an aeromodelling club in the late 40’s and he helped us make models, both static and flying from about the same age as he took us to OW.
my brother has recently bought one and his results have been fine, especially as he has not much experience in taking photos of moving objects. I am impressed with the rate and number of shots the buffer will support.
This is a picture he sent me as an e-mail – so it is not at high resolution, but I have seen the original and it is pin sharp
I spoke with Charlie for some time when the Nimrod was at Old Warden in 2002. He is a real gentleman and was very tolerant of a range of probably quite inane questions. At the end he gave me a brief guided tour of the Nimrod (the quality of the restoration is stunning close up). Absolutely top bloke.
Turbo NZ,
Correct aircraft, wrong date ( OK being a bit picky)
Piaggio-pegna P.c.7, photo taken on lake Garda late 1928/early 1929
This was designed and built for the 1929 Schneider trophy, one of two highly experimental italian aircraft that, perhaps not surprisingly, didn’t make it to the contest!
A high wing cantilever monoplane in which the floats were replaced by hydrofoils to reduce weight and whetted area when airborne. The Isotta-Fraschini motor had two clutches- one drove a water propeller at the rear to raise the wings and fuselage out of the water sufficiently to enable the second clutch to the two bladed propeller at the front of the fuselage at which point the aircraft would in theory take off. One account says that Warrant officer Dal Molin tried to make a take off but found it impossible to juggle the two clutches simultaneously as well as keep the aircraft straight and level on the foils. The aim was to have a dead stick landing with the airscrew held horizontal.
Attched is a photo of a large scale model made that was also tested on Lake garda before the full scale craft was built