It is not only 5th generation fighters that are huge !
Ok, first, the delta wing is a well proven configuration, very solid, and for high mach speed it doesnt need very poweful engines.
We cant really know about aerodynamics, I must admit, but your small plane seems to have a shape too complicated for such small size, why must have the Fanker/Fulcrum layout for such small plane?, you will save weight stuffing both engines in the same structure, instead putting them on pods, the reason why the flanker has such design is because is more practical for such size, because structural issues for its huge lifting body…but your aircraft is lighter (or it must be).
Boeing recently tried delta wing; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbPx6rQO3qg
I have an idea for really lite structure.
Light loaded it has 212 kg/m2 loading and top loading around 385 kg/m2.
I estimate mach 3 even with J-85s ( proven for hypersonic speeds ) at 24 km altitude.
I believe the best configuration for a very small 5th gen fighter is the Mirage one, a delta wing, single engine, a V shape tail and a radar blocker, no canards, nothing more that would add more weight, topspeed, i think your configuration will fail in the real world (over weight, structural issues, aerodynamics, etc..)
I estimate 4 300 kg empty 11 000 kg loaded. Why would the aerodynamics fail ?
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They tried the rocket rail supersonic system in the F-106 and pilots did not stop dying because of it till they got rid of it.
Also as with the F-106, the canopy metal frame being directly above the seat makes ejecting through the canopy impossible if the canopy will not jettison.
As there is zero room below it, it would be impossible to work on it.
You are way behind the curve on this one as with most items.
Thanks for the compliments !
At least I am in 1/3 size of the current 5th generation fighters !
Was YF-23 ejection system different ?
Perhaps we can figure out suntin that works for it.
These were munchkins..USAF fighters from 1970ies ! I like’em alot. F-16 was created from this stuff..
Wow your Munchkin pilot sits on top of the missiles and loses his already stubby legs in an ejection, brilliant.
I realize you know as full well as any one here that, that drawing is just that a cartoon drawing that defies physics for the purpose of seeing how long you can keep this going, well I am out of here.
No sir !
Ejection from this stealth jet can take place also in super sonic region..therefore that it takes place not only upwards but also rearwards. This is the safest imaginable ejection from a fast moving jet aircraft !
Also firing missiles at supersonic speed is easy as the projectiles are in the centerline of the craft !
It stays a cartoon if you don’t fund it…anyone interested ?!
Pilot is 6’3” in the drawing.
rgds,
Juke
There was one error in the ruddervator area….corrected here !
Angle means nothing the F5D SKYLANCER, nothing to do with the F-5 had an entirely different shape windscreen which allowed it to go 200 mph faster with the same engine in a larger heavier aircraft.
A person who dealt with the F-20 said what went wrong you are just blowing hot air with your opinion.
I have heard differently …angles are very important in supersonic flight….ooops maybe you did not mean that at all ?
This munchkin has 1 degs steeper wind screen ( than F-20 )..but resistent to small arms fire…and birds etc.
I hope you are correct about F-20….the bird maybe lacked funding ?
Finally the side view also !
Lotsa lotsa fuel can be fitted inside ( 2500-3000 liters ).
This is kinda like cross breed in between SU-35 and YF-23 but all arranged into F-5 size ( or Gripen ).
Able little MUNCHKIN or what ?
Not sure where to put this really, but it occurs to me that a triangular arrangement between SAAB, Brazil, and Turkey would have a lot going for it, and moreover seems quite plausible given the SAAB-Brazil, SAAB-Turkey, and Turkey-Brazil relationships already established. Could this nexus serve each partner’s interests and present the world with another 5+ generation combat aircraft?
Better yet…Finland aviation industry ( PATRIA ) could deliver more capable 6th generation jets for lesser money ? :applause:
Flying the 4 engine plane with just 2 engines would save fuel and bomb bays could deliver also much needed tents and rice sacks etc !
If F-20 isn’t tail heavy…then my A4SF-1G is nose heavy !
by the way, the Czech Republic is still aviation power, it´s the biggest producer and exporter of UL aircrafts per head in the world
I tought Slovenia is..they have 3 aeroplane factories…and no air force !
You should read a lot more about how shape of aircraft affect performance.
When the F5D Skylancer was developed from the F4D Skyray, it was a larger aircraft with the same engine but was two hundred miles an hour faster as stated by the engineers who built it, simply because they eliminated the flat windshield and replaced with a V shaped one.
The windshield on your aircraft alone will restrict its speed greatly.
The lack of space will restrict its ability to reach any speed due to fuel use to attain anything near a high-speed.
It would have less range than a F-5 because two engines use more fuel than one without exception.
A English Electric Lighting could shoot it out of the sky because it would have superior performance but then with the extremely limited range of your gnat it would never be a threat to anything period.A more recent small fighter, F-20, died for reasons this analyst said:
We wanted hot, light airplanes that were just as stripped-down as possible… They took an austere, stripped-down F-5 and ruined it by loading crap on it. Adding Sparrow missiles required huge complexity on the airplane. Adding air-to-ground capability ruined the F-20A.
The Tigershark gained it performance by eliminating two small J-85s for one larger engine.Your Neverland idea will never leave Neverland.
Pierre Sprey, DoD senior analyst.Your dream has even more problems that the Tigershark had.
Skylancer had 5 degs steeper windshield than Skyray…but F-20 had actually 7 degrees steeper than F-5…wonder why ? F-20 had 14 degrees steeper wind screen steepness than a F4D Skyray !
Biggest problem in my dream is a company that could manufacture them and funding most likely.
Below the mistake is clear 500 kg heavier engine reaches also 11 inches more aft than previous pair of J-85s…for compensation nose has been lenghtened by 6 inches…pilot has not moved forward..gear, machine gun and radar has.
Also the trade mark Coke Bottle fuselage no longer exists ( area ruled lay out ).
Most dramatical difference in the wing leading edge 5 degs steeper form which brought the leading edge 8 inches forward at the root..changing the aerodynamical CENTER few ( 5-6 in ) inches forward !!!??
Aft heavy? That’s a new excuse. Ironically Gripen, Rafale, and Typhoon went through prototyping with heavy ass ends.
Gripen, Rafale ans Typhoon have the main wing at the rear..thus they cope fine with tail heavy system. They actually need to have heavy load at the rear end.
This has no intention to drop nose after a stall ?