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May 10, 2009 at 11:32 am in reply to: Something new perhaps ? #429918

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What kinda engine are you planning on that ?

Holcomb managed to fly with 35 hp engine.

Rutan had an 18 hp engine in his small Quickie single seater.

May 7, 2009 at 1:14 pm in reply to: Something new perhaps ? #430045

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Hey guys, this thread seems to have died. Hope I didn’t kill it off.

No you did not.

I found a plane that aviation genious Molton Taylor had strongly influenced. One built.34 hp and 370 lbs dry weight. Fan cooled.

This is a strong evidence that a tail wheel and Y-tail are valid in pusher config.

Molton made his Micro-Imp in 1981 and it was said to go 120 mph at 1,2 Gallons/hr. I think it was a result of the first oil crisis like the Bill Lear’s Lear Fan 2100.

Jerry Holcomb’s Perigee today and 1987:

May 7, 2009 at 1:09 pm in reply to: The "Wot Plane" Thread. (Game rules in Post #1) #1181063

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Any hints year, continent ?

Rudder is familiar, but not Anatra DS; http://www.theaerodrome.com/aircraft/russia/anatra_ds.php

May 6, 2009 at 12:32 pm in reply to: DH88 Comet Racer #1182745

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Awesome Dh88 Comet

I have always liked the De Havilland made aeroplanes. Dragon Rapide Dh89 was a wonderful looking AC and still is.

Wonder if the Racer could be made as a single seater in for instance 2/5 scale ? Was it ok to fly or was it pure racer with some menace habits ?

May 5, 2009 at 10:48 am in reply to: The "Wot Plane" Thread. (Game rules in Post #1) #1184338

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Correct a Mercury engined trainer created from spare parts of WW II fighters and bombers ( tail wheel is from Me-109 ). Wing is basically a metal version of Pyörremyrsky fighter ac wing.

May 5, 2009 at 7:23 am in reply to: The "Wot Plane" Thread. (Game rules in Post #1) #1184496

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A trainer for the air force.

May 4, 2009 at 1:01 pm in reply to: The "Wot Plane" Thread. (Game rules in Post #1) #1185598

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M-50 Bounder

http://www.aviation-history.com/articles/nuke-bombers.htm

Not the nuclear powered M-60 : )

May 3, 2009 at 9:44 am in reply to: World's Oldest Independent Air Force #1186365

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Topspeed,

This is a Boomarang, a piece of wood, beautifully and lovingly carved by man into an aerodynamic shape, designed as a weapon that when thrown, will return to the thrower if it misses it’s target.

Indeed..that is a genuine abo boomerang !

The Kierikki “boomerang” was also a bent piece of wood..looked as if it was made thinner to fly better..it possibly kept it better in course and abled to increase the impact energy stored at throw. It left me wondering what a boomerang really is/was.

Those people in Kierikki 6000-4500 years ago lived outa forest and sea 40-50 km more inland on the coast ( where the coast used to be ) on the river delta and had semidetached central heated log/hey/branch houses. The weather pattern has changed since a lot..I recall also in northern Norway there used to be nut trees…some few thousand years ago. I wonder if these people hunted down the mammoths 10 000 years ago ? They had also speers + bows and arrows. Obviously they did not know how to write…or did they..there are no written artifacts left. How and why did they culture die 2500 bC..or did they just move where the coast moved..like egyptians had to move from Piramese to Tanis due to river changes ( old river dried out ) ? They also had already buttons made of amber…and some boomerangs..kinda puzzle isn’t it ?

May 2, 2009 at 5:45 pm in reply to: World's Oldest Independent Air Force #1186842

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Note bold text….

Hardly independant of other services.

RAF on the other hand on the 1st April 1918 subject to CHIEF OF THE AIR STAFF and AIR MINISTRY, not Chief of the General Staff and War Office.

Yeah I think this makes your RAF extremely independent AF. FAF had still at the start of the WW II general major Ljunqvist as chief an he was artillery officer by training..he remained as chief during the whole hulabaloo if I not mistaken.

May 2, 2009 at 5:37 pm in reply to: World's Oldest Independent Air Force #1186845

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Ah yes but it is a little known fact that the first CAS of the RAF’s Great great great great grandmother had a Finnish friend.

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Ok you guys are killing me…but I give in a bit..the boomerang in Kierikki-museum is not that state of the art as the ones with abos in Australia. It is a highly suitable device to take living daylights outa someone, but hardly returns to sender even if it misses the target. It was still labelled as a boomerang in the museum.

May 2, 2009 at 9:52 am in reply to: World's Oldest Independent Air Force #1187196

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Please……Stop……my ribs hurt…..I can’t take anymore…………

Well…Also Pamela Andersson and Jessica Lange + Rene Zellweger are finns by their origins. This has got to very little with formula 1 but in good form and well built and constructed anyhow.

May 2, 2009 at 9:12 am in reply to: World's Oldest Independent Air Force #1187211

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…..I’m now wiping coffee off my monitor………..

White Lightning was capable of the same as Questair Venture but with 2x the crew and 100 hp less. 3 x FAI class winner.

Bill Falck is genuiely a hero in Eastern Finland in his hometown ( his original name slips my mind ..Viljo ?).

May 2, 2009 at 8:07 am in reply to: World's Oldest Independent Air Force #1187264

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You’re having me on! You had the first independant air force and invented the boomarang? You’ll be telling me next that Finland sported some of the best F1 and rally drivers the world has ever seen!………whatever next.

Not quite but Bill Falck did win several F1 predecessor races with his small racer Rivets. Len Niemi did Sisu 1-A sailplane and was behind the White Lightning sports plane and AJ-2 Oskosh 500 winner. They either moved from Finland or were born in finnish origin family in USA.

April 29, 2009 at 1:09 pm in reply to: World's Oldest Independent Air Force #1190107

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If it doesn’t come back…..is it not ..a stick?

That is how they look. They threw a stick first and at same stage they discovered that some shape sticks return.

April 29, 2009 at 11:38 am in reply to: World's Oldest Independent Air Force #1190241

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Speaking as an archaeologist (yes I know !!!! Hiss !!!!!! Booooooo !!!!!!!, how dare you inject some scientific training into the debate !!!!!! blah, blah blah, been there got the T shirt 😮 ) there is some quite convincing evidence that China and not Australia may be where boomerang type artefacts first appeared. This news was received with some amount of angst in my home country, but one cannot argue with evidence if it is properly presented, well one can as this forum demonstrates regularly 😀 .

Therefore the home of the world’s oldest airforce may be China, more specifically a small restaurant in Beijing where the boomerang is Number 38* on the menu, very nice with the fried rice.

Others will probably care to differ but fortune cookies never lie.

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* I might add that in Istanbul, the last time I was there, is a bus line called Bumerang Tours. I know what they mean but although the name suggests something else it is reassuring to know that you will be returned to where you board the bus. The implied route, however, is a little worrying.

I was very surprised too about the village that was found in the sixties when a hydropowerplant was being built in Finland in Kierikki. It was dated 4000-2500 bC.

http://www.kierikki.fi/sivu/en/kierikkikeskus/
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