topspeedDo not worry about how many attempts you could try before, this has none importance here. The most important should be to keep the desire to try because here the discussion has been endless.
I could suggest that you should be a little more critical about the numbers of Gripen E, after all there are a lot of fantasy on those number, in especial about the Brazil contract.
The value of US$ 4.5 billion for 36 fighters from Brazil had been only keep until the day that contract were signed with Brazil in 2014, since after the contract was signed the value has been increased to US$ 5.4 Billions so far.
The strangest part about those values from Brazil and Switzeland should be that while the referendum had been occurring in Switzerland in 2014 the Gripen E had a higher price in Switzerland than in Brazil ,once in Switzerland the unitary cost of the Gripen E were US$ 146 million for each Gripen E, while in Brazil at the same time the unit cost of the Gripen E / F were US$ 125 million.
I guess that clever people of Switzerland has found out this inconsistency in those numbers and therefore has been canceled the acquisition of Gripen E.
Below it is a post that I had put some different sources of information about Switzerland, I could suggest for you do not limit to this, after all there are many other posts in the past about the subject.
Gripen NG must be a marvel with G414 engine as this old one is this nimble; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqoPe3q2KUs
topspeedGrowing more trees is promoted as a way of absorbing carbon from the atmosphere. The UN has started programs to replant billions of trees around the planet. As for planting palm trees in Vancouver, the weather is mild there but probably not warm enough. You might have to wait a several decades.
The video is interesting, though a bit old. Since 2007 the sea ice has continued its decline. 2012 was a record year, but there has been some ice increase in 2013 and 2014.
You can find charts with the sea ice coverage on several web sites. Here’s one for instance:
http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/charctic-interactive-sea-ice-graph/Notice that we are already very low. You can click on the years you want to see or on ‘show all’. If you click on show all, you can see that we are pretty much at a record low for that time of year.
The oceans absorbs 90% of the energy, so they are warming significantly more than the atmosphere. A recent study showed that the oceans have absorbed more heat than what we thought.
http://tcktcktck.org/2014/10/study-finds-oceans-warming-faster-expected/64670The pacific might have a significant effect on the overall temperatures:
http://www.livescience.com/49967-pacific-ocean-global-warming-pause.htmlThe planet has warmed somewhat in the past 15 years. It depends if you want to take 1998 as the starting year, because 1998 was a very strong el nino. Climate skeptics often use 1998 as a starting year to say that the planet diden’t warm.
The arctic warms around 3 times faster than the average for a variety of reasons ( several feedbacks involved, also the fact that the all the pollution from the developping word, like China, emits particulates that reflect light, and those particulates don’t go in the arctic ).
One effect of this ‘arctic amplifiaction’ effect is the disturbance of the jet Stream, which causes extreme colds in some places and extreme heat in the arctic at the same time ( sometimes 15-20 deg C higher than normal in some parts of the arctic and 20 deg C colder in the eastern US for instance). So the loss of arctic sea ice will have important effects on our climate, maybe on yields, etc…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAiA-_iQjdU
I think this is the most dangerous thing..cause the oceans produce the most oxygen as well. Messing up that system will end “the life as we know it”. Otherwise I agree with obligatorys link…this system is so complicated to understand that both ways denying is possible. Trees need CO2 to grow !
Winters in USA are colder says dr. Don Easterbrook..is this also part of the “global warming” ? It is not actually normal is it…8.7 degs colder ?
There was a study in Finland 2003-2007 and they found 1400 new species prior unknown in Finland….and 200 totally new species or organic life forms ! http://www.mtv.fi/uutiset/kotimaa/artikkeli/suomen-metsista-on-loytynyt-satoja-uusia-eliolajeja/1964786 …this may be due to global warming.
topspeedPalm trees in England is a bit surprising.
The Greenland ice cap is melting more rapidly than expected. What happens is that the water enters the ice sheet through holes and cracks the ice from below. This phenomenon has surprised scientists.
http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2014/dec/15/greenland-ice-melt-underestimated-study-says
As the sea ice disappears around Greenland in the coming years and decades ( in september first, then the window of ice free arctic ocean will increase ), this will warm the area above Greenland significantly, and the ice sheet will melt faster.
As for the antarctic, the ice cover has been increasing in the eastern part somewhat because of more precipitations, but scientists are concerned about the stability of the western ice sheet. If it desintegrates, it could increase sea very significantly.
http://www.antarcticglaciers.org/2014/05/west-antarctic-ice-sheet-collapsing/
We have to be carefull with the models, they might be too optimistic. As I said, it turned out that the models that had been used to predict arctic sea ice decline were completely wrong, as well as the models used to describe the greenland ice sheet melting.
I agree…I read the global warming is not as fast as predicted due to several reasons. One is that there is lotsa cool water in the oceans ( deep deep ) and that sorta works as a cooler and when this cooler’s capacity has been used a more rapid change can/may/shall take place.
Here is NASA specialist talking; https://curiosity.com/playlists/what-happens-if-the-polar-ice-caps-melt-lXZUv90b/nasa-climate-change-and-polar-ice-are-we-waking-sleeping-giants-hd-the-mars-underground/?ref=pl
Growing more trees is a good thing. Vancouver might be a place to get palm trees growing.
topspeedI don’t know if it is normal. The jet Stream is behaving abnormally quite often now so it might be colder than normal.
The -46C of yesterday is the temperature felt, with the wind and humidity. Without them it was around -30C. The record of -89 probably does not take wind and humidity into account.
Fulcrum-aholic said before that the coldest he has seen is -50C and -75C with the wind.
Roger Hotshot !
I time to time check the South Pole temperatures.
http://weather.noaa.gov/weather/current/NZSP.html
46 minus C and 63 with wind.
So there is no risk of the cap melting there….if it does then the s**t hits the fan.
Confirmed here too; http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Features/PolarIce/polar_ice2.php
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topspeedOne of the coldest years we’ve had with temperatures going down to minus 50 celcius (over minus 75 celcius with windchill) more than a few times…
MAAKUSIMI.
I think we are discussing this.
Iqanuit is suffering the coldest year in recent history and just across the pond we are wondering why it is so darn warm that the bears wake up one month too early.
Role of the F-14 Tomcat was discussed already on the opening page.
Now it is snowing mitten sized snow flakes and no wind ( 0 C ).
http://www.foreca.fi/Finland/Oulu
Common with Canuckistan and Findustan is that we both have ethnic population that lives from fishing, reindeers, hunting etc ….and they tell us something is wrong with the weather. Both also fly F/A-18s and play ice-hockey and think about the next generation jet acquisition. Equally common is that they both live next to a superpower and neither have an indigenous fighter program.
Both may have been influenced by the TOP GUN movie…as I have no idea how many navy carriers Canuckistan has, but Findustan has none, yet we fly naval airplanes with arrester hooks.
topspeedThe humidity factor must make it seem colder in the winter and warmer in the summer I imagine. It is the same in Montreal with the Saint-Lawrence and the lakes around.
Geez I don’t think I would hold long in Iqaluit. Temperature felt now, -46C.
I don’t care if it’s a bit cold as long as I can go outside without too much disconfort, say not colder than -15C. Colder than that it gets boring.
Is that normal in Iqaluit ?
89.2 minus centigrade is the record; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lowest_temperature_recorded_on_Earth
topspeedI thought kinematic performance was not important anymore now that F-35 has stealth 🙂
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Stealth is just a paint I heard here…so it might just wear off in a battle…thus kinematic performance may be good…even vertical ( from high to low ).
topspeedI checked the forecast, the temperature is not bad but it’s raining. It sounds like southern Quebec but darker in the winter time. Do you get a lot of rain? With the sea close by I would think so.
The sea is not open yet. It has been a bit gloomy not much sunshine for weeks. It is kinda damp…not really raining much…super humid. It is really dark from start of December to end of January. Snow usually lighten up the atmosphere too.
Our capitol isn’t much warmer ( 600 km south ); http://www.foreca.fi/Finland/Helsinki
topspeedSo there is like 25 deg C of difference with Iqaluit ( w/o taking into account the wind ) for the same latitude!
It is not that cold in Finland, I would have thought it would have been colder. I imagine the temperature must increase very quickly at this time of year because of the increased solar input. The sea is still frozen I guess?
This was week ago in Oulu…its been much warmer since…for a week.
US ambassodor to Finland speaks here; http://www.istv.fi/kotimaa/vid-1424870954935.html
Bicycle season starts in a week if it keeps going like this.
Here is the week forecast in Oulu; http://www.foreca.fi/Finland/Oulu
topspeedNice animation.
Here is the tempetaure in Iqaluit:
http://www.meteomedia.com/meteo/canada/nunavut/IqaluitTemperature felt, -38. At the beginning of march. I have lived in Montreal, we used to get that rarely maybe once in January with the wind.
What’s the temperature in Oulu now?
It was + 2.5 C at 2 PM ( right about when you asked ).
Over the weekend is +5 degs C prognosed.
topspeedI wouldn’t have though that palm trees were growing in middle of England, but indeed Europe gets its warm climate from the gulf Stream.
There is speculation as to what might happen in the future with the gulf Stream wrt global warming. Some scientists think the melting of the Greenland ice cap will make it slow down. That would cool Europe but that cooling effect would be compensated by the warming due to GHGs.
However these things are hard to predict. The Greenland ice cap may melt much faster than expected because the arctic warming is happening quickly ( in fact it is already melting much faster than expected ). Some scientists even say that an abrupt climate change is happening right now in the arctic.
Even the bears have woken up 1 month too early.
There is a low pressure just below Iqaluit.
http://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/surface/level/orthographic=-348.81,69.93,1516
topspeedI find it amazing that humans have been able to survive in such harsh environments. Do you go hunting, fishing etc?
Iqaluit is several hundred km below where I live in latitude. Yet we have an early spring here ( sorta….+ degrees ).
That Golf stream is an interesting phenomena. Also Global Warming phenomena adds its own share to this.
Did you know palm trees grow in Lancashire, England.
topspeedIt seems to be rugged; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIyYK9oz9Go
( No data on the specs seems to be right on the video ).
Goes Mach 2.2 !
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Dynamics/Grumman_EF-111A_Raven
Weighs over 40 metric tons. 23 meters long.
Dwarfs the F-15 Eagle by 25 %.
topspeedBeing able to use 36500 lb of fuel rather than 27500 lb should explain the greater range even allowing for extra drag from the extra weight & longer fuselage. It’s 33% more.
Sounds like the Herc longer fuselage is not a lifting body type in your view ? 😉
We just concluded in an other thread that even the external fueltanks create lift.
topspeedWhen I will see Pilots dancing the Polka on this thing, I will have faith on what you just wrote… In the meantime… :very_drunk:
I have heard the Polka will be new feature added in the airshows when Gripen performs.
http://www.smilinscandinavians.com/links.html
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