topspeed, the drawings on Wikipedia aren’t entirely accurate. My frontal profiles are directly from the PAK FA patent and Lockheed Martin, so they’re as accurate as you can get. Also, I assumed 13.95 meter wingspan for the T-50, and 13.56 meter wingspan for the F-22.

As for the T-50 empty weight, Piotr Butowski cites 18,000 kg, though this may have increased slightly due to some of the structural reinforcements we saw after 2012.

I agree…the wiki 3-views are distorted badly.

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http://paralay.com/paralay_tab.xls

These look pretty accurate..are the elevator frontal areas added as well ?

Is the side view suppose to be total area ?

Paralay…..what did you just post…..two hotlinks to where ?

Once more…I superimposed the wiki image under the colored image here in the right scale…and able to correct the way too thin rudders..and get the right area. I also saw that the PAKFA was 0.0025 % too small…and after correction I got the right size for it too.

To confuse everyone I also added the enlarged ( to meet the lenght based estimate ) wiki 3-view front with this image here and voila….we can see several new aspects.

There is a fair change that the PAKFA indeed is the same size with F-22 !?

What annoys me the most is that the length and span are not what are informed in the “official” 3-views in wiki.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Martin_F-22_Raptor

How do you figure the frontal area? The T-50 must have the largest wing area right?

I just count it from the image with a computer program.

Here is the 3-view with 100% exact F-22 measures ( in relation to others ) and a composed one from wikipedia .

This new wiki picture when scaled to right size gives frontal of 9.34 m2 for F-22 ???