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  • in reply to: Ray Hanna #1285001
    warbirdfan
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    If anyone would like to read the full texts of the tributes to Ray at the Funeral and Memorial Service they’ve been posted on Pprune today. I think this is the first time they’ve been posted on the internet.

    Here’s the link.

    They’re on the last page but if you haven’t looked at the thread for a few months its worth reading a few pages before that.

    in reply to: Spitfire and Concorde in the final #1344454
    warbirdfan
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    Pinched from another forum

    By coincidence –

    The Test Pilot who made the maiden supersonic flight in the British prototype died 5 years ago this month.
    Thread about him here: Captain Brian Trubshaw FRAeS

    One of the two men who saved Concorde from the beancounters’ axe pre privatisation of British Airways, and kept it operating at a profit thereafter, was honoured this week.
    Link: Captain Jock Lowe FRAeS

    Shame Air France never made a success of Concorde.
    If the AF fleet had been making a profit, it would still be flying.

    If Air France hadn’t been going down the pan at the time, I think it would still be flying, even though unlike BA they couldn’t run Concorde at a profit.

    W

    in reply to: How Low Can You Go?? #1346587
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    There’s some good low flying shots on this link. I don’t know how to make links direct to the entries but look at posts 188 and 197.

    Low flying – really low!

    in reply to: Ray Hanna's Film & TV Credits #1352008
    warbirdfan
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    I know that Ray seemed happy flying ‘anything’ but I don’t believe he was a helicopter pilot – I think we’d have found out by now, above or below sea level. Does anyone know for certain?

    I e-mailed Tudor Owen who was a friend of Ray and Mark Hanna and posts on Pprune as the Flying Lawyer because I thought he’d know for sure. He gave the Eulogy at Ray’s funeral and the Address at the Memorial Service

    He says that Ray was never a helicopter pilot. 100% certain.

    There’s a picture of Ray flying MH434 under the bridge for Piece of Cake here.

    Piece of Cake

    W

    in reply to: Ray Hanna Memorial Service Reminder #1357655
    warbirdfan
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    Forgot to say

    And lots of photos.

    in reply to: Ray Hanna Memorial Service Reminder #1358604
    warbirdfan
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    There are some wonderful descriptions of the Memorial Service here –

    Click this link

    in reply to: Ray Hanna Memorial Service Reminder #1360682
    warbirdfan
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    Thanks Albert Ross.

    Your wonderful description sets the scene beautifully and makes up a bit for us not being able to get there to pay our respects.

    By the way, Tudor Owen used to fly a Harvard with the OFMC years ago.
    That’s how they became friends.

    Just in case people think Ray Hanna got in trouble and needed a lawyer!! 🙂

    PS.

    Could we change the title of this thread to take out ‘reminder’?

    Or maybe join it with the other threads about Ray Hanna as one permanent tribute to the greatest pilot most of us have seen and probably will ever see?

    in reply to: Ray Hanna Memorial Service – NEWS #1367331
    warbirdfan
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    Passing this on from a friend who works in the area in case it helps anyone …….

    Although the Church address is Strand WC2, it isn’t in what most people think of as the Strand. It’s on the EAST side of the Aldwych opposite the Royal Courts of Justice.

    See you there.

    in reply to: Ray Hanna #1361507
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    This is becoming unbelievable.

    So, in the opinion of some here, Ray Hanna was lucky to be in the right place at the right time and (like SG) was “‘just an ordinary man who is lucky to have the money to indulge his passion.”

    As for “gaining experience that led to becoming well known publicly as Arrows leader”, you should read the Times obituary.
    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,60-1918199,00.html

    It’s well worth reading and you’ll find out that it was Ray Hanna’s exceptional skill as a pilot and his extraordinary flare for displaying which MADE the Red Arrowns such a success.

    What the obituary writer discreetly leaves out is the reason why Ray Hanna is the only Leader to have served 4 years, and it wasn’t because he happened to be in the right place at the right time – he was called back from another job in the RAF!
    Books on the history of the Arrows are just as discreet. They gloss over that there was another Leader for a short time after Ray Hanna completed his normal three year tour (some don’t even mention it) and make it look like he did four continous years.

    Just an ordinary man who was lucky???
    I despair.
    I’m off to stuff the turkey.
    I’ve got a feeling it’s going to be well and truly stuffed.

    Merry Christmas all.

    in reply to: Ray Hanna #1361574
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    Steve
    As you’ve been watching displays for 20 years, were you ever lucky enough to see the late Stefan Karwowski display SG’s Bearcat?
    In my opinion there has been no pilot since who can match him or even come very close in the Bearcat.

    If people use words like ‘legend’ just because someone’s good, it eventually becomes devalued.
    IMHO people misuse the term ‘natural pilot’ in just the same way when 99% of the time the pilot is just very good. In my time watching hundreds of warbird displays, there have been several extremley good pilots but only 3 truly ‘naturals’ – Ray & Mark Hanna and Stefan Karwowski.

    in reply to: Ray Hanna #1362995
    warbirdfan
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    Thanks for sharing your pics.

    But Stephen Gray a “legend”?
    Steady on.

    Ray Hanna was a legend.

    There’s a lovely picture of the Arrows flypast just been posted HERE.

    Look in the posts dated 23rd December.

    It’s one to save and keep.

    in reply to: Ray Hanna #1366351
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    Merlinmagic

    Thank you very much for taking the trouble to describe the funeral.

    Ray Hanna was a hero in our family I’m sure many people, like us, will appreciate you posting because reading your account allows us to share the experience in our own small way.

    There’s another description at the link below. It doesn’t give as much detail or describe the atmosphere quite as well as Merlin but I recommend reading it all the same.

    CLICK LINK HERE

    Look for a post by “LOMCEVAK”

    W.

    in reply to: Ray Hanna #1371804
    warbirdfan
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    http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41126000/jpg/_41126110_tributesss.jpghttp://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/graphics/2005/12/16/narrows16.jpg

    Photos from the BBC website.

    I heard a little about the funeral through the grapevine this evening.

    A friend of Ray’s called Tudor Owen who is a barrister and flew warbirds with him in the 80’s did the tribute and it was amazing apparently. Then Ray’s family and friends followed the coffin up to the grave on the hillside in the small churchyard. The Red Arrows did a flypast and ‘salute’ to their former Leader, followed by Lee Proudfoot flying Ray’s Spitfire, before Ray’s coffin was lowered into the grave. Ray is buried beside Mark.

    Can anyone who was there please give us more detail?
    Why was everyone talking about what the friend said?
    What did he say? Does anyone have a copy?

    I don’t want to intrude, I’m genuinely interested because like everyone I admired Ray Hanna so much.

    in reply to: Ray Hanna #1378463
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    I don’t know if anyone’s seen today’s Times. The Obituary is even more impressive in the ‘real thing’ than the internet version.

    They’ve devoted almost an entire page to Ray Hanna, including pictures of him and the Red Arrows in his time.

    What an impressive obituary, and so beautifully written.
    It captures all the enjoyment Ray Hanna gave people over the years, starting before some of us were born.

    It even mentions those wonderful closing the show moments at Biggin which had me and lots of other people with tears in our eyes.
    “Aerial ballet” – That phrase sums it up perfectly.

    I honestly think it’s worth getting a copy while you still can and keeping it.

    We’re definitely going to keep ours.

    Wonderful obituary to a wonderful man.

    W.

    in reply to: Ray Hanna #1379450
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    There are some wonderful tributes to Ray Hanna on the link below.

    Some from warbird fans, but mainly from people in other parts of his long career – Red Arrows, RAF, airlines – showing how much people respected him wherever they met him or came across him.

    Mainly written rather than pictures but they are well worth the read. Link HERE

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