The problem is to intercept these things. They are hard to detect by radar, and to intercept them with a missile is kind of like using a pistol to shoot down a fly. However, their size is also their soft point. They have limited range and ability to carry equipment. In other words, a propaganda machine.
A PAF F-16 shot down an indian UAV in 2002 with an AIM-9l
an F-16 question.
Is congress likely to pass a bill to halt the sale of F-16s to Pakistan?, Ackerman(Pro-Indian lobyyist) has announced the bill.
After all the words I have said you still don’t get it, do you? It is not about if and what you are gonna buy, it is all about the economic winnings. You are so happy to hear about weapons purchases for Pakistan that you completely forgot the fact that you will have nothing left for yourself. My only question is: what economic effect do all the weapons purchases have for Pakistan? Do they increase or decrease quality of your life?
Believe me, buddy, wise men produce weapons so idiots might spend their last money on them. … wise men know that, they grow rich and smile.. And idiots grow even poorer and are happy how strong they have became 😉
I may, but Yanks surely won’t.. 🙂 I know them well. They will gladly sell you stuff. But you are gonna pay hard cash, buddy.
Thats rather rich, coming from a country were an estimated 350-400 million people live below the poverty line?
If the US does provide AIM-120s to the Pakistan, will the PAF install the AMRAAMs on the JF-17s, or is the SD-10 still the primary BVR platform for the JF-17?
Manmohan Singh will raise the F-16 issue with George.W.Bush in the May meeting at Moscow, could there be any setbacks to delivery of these planes to pakistan?, could the US limit the number of F-16s to pakistan?,Could pakistan recive a downgraded version of the F-16?
One thing i fail to understand, is why the outcry over the F-16s, according to manmohan singh the planes will be targetted against india, what about the 126 multi role fighters india is planning to purchase?, who will they be targetted at?, whats the reason behind the double standards & hypocrisy?
Well, I’m not surprised that PAF wanted more F-16s (all talk about Gripen made no sense at all).
But, will this be via partially or fully via FMS, or will it be paid full by Pakistan? I saw information in a posted article about money given in aid that could be used for this purchase, but I’m still wondering.
And will this affect the possible sale of Erieyes to PAF (will they go for Hawkeyes instead)?
And of course: will it have implications for the JF-17 program? If PAF have to pay for the F-16 with “own” money allocated, can they still afford to fund the JF-17 program?
Regards
I thought the eyerie deal was in its advanced negotiation stages?
What really confuses me is the fact that an F-16-eyerie combo will never work, the PAF needs the Hawkeye to complament the F-16s.
iran has mountenous geography which comes as an advantage in ariel combat.
Golden Arrow
I’ll have to disagree with you,
Pakistan will never allow America to use its territory to attack a Muslim Nation, In Afghanistan’s case it was legitimate (Pakistan never had a choice on the matter) but in Iran’s case (No chance in hell!), And what makes you so sure the Bush regime would want to attack Iran? The public support in america is wearing thin with regards to Iraq? There is no way the Bush regime can afford to attack another country.
Worst aviation Scene
Top Gun
The F-14 was designed to operate & fire Aim-54s not 8 Aim-9ls
Iron Eagle
The Migs aka A-4s at the start of the movie attacking a pair of F-16s?
The scene where an F-16 fires an Aim-9l into a radar tower
Behind Enemy Lines.
The chaff and flares should have been enough to knock out the missiles.
The Sum of All Fears
Israeli didn’t operate Harriers during the Yom Kippur war?
The scene where a missile hooms in on the Harrier, some kind of mechanism or alarm should have been triggered to warn the pilot of the incoming missile.
Best aviation scenes
The Sum of All Fears
The scene where a pack of SU-24s launch ASWs against the USN carrier
Top Gun
The Sight Of the F-14 alone,was enough to make you salivate.
So now Pakistan is NOT a military dictatorship??
ROTFLMAO
Please take your political mumbo jumbo elsewhere.
U.S. to sell F-16 jets to Pakistan, India
By Deb Riechmann, Associated Press Writer | March 25, 2005
WASHINGTON — The United States has agreed to sell sophisticated F-16 fighter planes to both India and its next-door rival Pakistan, administration officials said Friday, and India immediately expressed displeasure to President Bush.
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The diplomatically sensitive move — which the administration was ready to announce later Friday — rewards Pakistan for help in the war on terrorism but angers India, a U.S. ally and a fellow democracy.
Bush, who is spending holiday time at his Texas ranch, called Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh early Friday to tell him of the long-anticipated decision. The State Department planned to describe details of the sale later in the day.
Singh “conveyed to President Bush his great disappointment over the United States’ decision,” Sanjaya Baru, the prime minister’s spokesman said. Singh said sales to Pakistan endanger security in the region, Baru said.
A senior U.S. official, speaking on condition of anonymity, linked the proposed sales of the planes, manufactured by Bethesda, Md.-based Lockheed Martin, directly to Musharraf’s cooperation after the terror attacks on the United States on Sept. 11, 2001. This official maintained the sale would not upset the balance of power in the region.
“Musharraf made the strategic decision on Sept. 14, 2001 to stand with the United States,” the official said, noting that the report of the independent Sept. 11 Commission recommended the United States make a long-term commitment to Pakistan. A five-year, $3 billion assistance program is under way, the official also noted.
“If the United States is giving the planes to Pakistan, it will create better feelings among the people for America,” said Pakistan’s information minister, Sheikh Rashid Ahmed.
“This will fulfill our defense requirements. We had been lagging behind (India) in conventional weapons. This will improve the situation,” Ahmed said.
The sales to two nuclear countries that have warred over the Kashmir territory could raise eyebrows among U.S. allies in Europe who are under White House pressure not to lift an arms embargo on China. The Bush administration argues that European weapons could contribute to rising tensions between Beijing and Taiwan.
Pakistan struck a deal with the United States to buy the nuclear-capable F-16 fighter jets in the late 1980s, but the agreement was scrapped in the 1990s when Washington imposed sanctions on Islamabad over its nuclear weapons program. Since then, Islamabad, which had paid in advance for the F-16s, has been pressuring Washington to supply the rest of the planes.
Renewed sales to Pakistan would reflect U.S. gratitude for Pakistan’s cooperation in the global hunt for terrorists. The United States had signed a separate $1.3 billion arms package to Pakistan last year.
India had voiced its opposition to the resumption of supply of F-16s to Pakistan during talks with Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice when she made a whistle-stop tour of South Asia last week.
New Delhi is worried that arming Pakistan with the advanced jet fighters would tilt the military balance in South Asia and could adversely affect the ongoing peace dialogue between India and Pakistan.
Rice had said the F-16 sales were a topic during talks in both India and Pakistan, but that she would not make any announcements during her tour.
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2005/03/25/us_to_sell_f_16_jets_to_pakistan_india/
If the news is true than it really would bolster PAFs defensive capability
