@jbritchford
Most of those things do not require a European government to rule over us. Also on cheaper calls, the roaming charges went down, but the domestic calls went up to pay for it, so to say cheaper calls is not correct! The roaming charges explained, also with a short Youtube video!

@Arthur Pewtey
I’ve already answered your question above.

@jbritchford
But you don’t know that we couldn’t secure reasonable terms, and so we cannot say that being in the EU does give us better trade terms. Do other countries of comparable size to Britain and smaller, outside of the EU, have good trading terms with the US? Then we will also have the cost advantage of lower regulation, and the chance tailor our approach to our economic particular mix. The curse of the status quo is a terrible thing.

@John K

Whether a TLAM has been downed or not is irrelevant. Almost any SAM can down them as they are subsonic, not very agile, and low flying comparable to a very easy target drone. The TLAMs launched have been launched in vast numbers against almost defenceless enemies. I suppose if you are suggesting that Britain use it’s deterrent in vast numbers (many hundreds) against a useless enemy then you may have a point, but that is not what the rest of us are discussing! A nuclear TLAM can do a lot more damage than a conventional one, and so justifies more investment by the enemy in stopping it.

A nuclear TLAM provides ZERO deterrence against any country with decent radar coverage, some fighters on alert and some SAM systems. Hell, even Iran could probably shoot down most (or maybe all!) of a wave of a few tens of TLAMs if they know each one had a bucket of sunshine onboard!

@John Green
Indeed the EU regulation is a terrible burden for our industry to carry. Our membrship of the EU also means we can’t negotiate our own trade terms which would more favour the type of trade we do, rather than trade terms meant more for the mainland. In the EU we are in a general voting minority, so whilst we are part of a bigger group, our say rarely ever counts unless we happen to be agreeing with the mainstream at that time. I don’t think our membership has much to do with what is best for Britain, but rather what is best for various politicians and interest groups.

Here’s an example of the typical example of the political interest types, see Ian Taylor.

@mrmalaya
I’m not anti-French either. But, looking at what happened with Aster, I can see the French extracting a high R&D price from us to participate. Since most of the work is already done in France we’d probably be limited to providing a few small items. Actually there was talk of the UK providing more input into the Trident replacement, but it’s a bit early to determine what form that work would take.

@Arthur Pewtey

You’re entitled to your opinion, but we are definitely better off out of the EU. There’s no use trying to convince people to change their view, you’ll only frustrate yourself 😎

If Nigel Farage says what people think and is in a “populist” party how come in the 2010 general election UKIP only attracted 3% of the vote?

If exit from the EU is so important to people why do parties who are happy to stay in the EU keep getting voted into power?

Mr Farage seems to be very vocal in criticizing the EU and its excesses but it seems is more than happy to partake of his share of the “gravy train”. His utterances need to be treated with caution as he is a “playing to the gallery” soundbite sort of politician. A bit like his Tory counterpart Hannan.

Nobody can say for sure, obviously! But from what I’ve seen the people who support UKIP also don’t want Labour to stay in since they destroyed our country last time and put us in a terrible situation, so if they all voted UKIP, the Tories would lose, and Labour would win spelling near certain doom for Britain! UKIP’s strength lays with their power to deny the Conservatives a victory at a general election. Many Tories voted Conservative on the basis that “Dave will be different” and the “cast iron guarantee”, many of these people now feel cheated.

He does a job and is paid for it. He certainly does more work for his “gravy” than the other politicians. Obviously since you don’t like him, I can see why you might prefer him to have to get a second job to pay the bills, and so never be in parliament 😉

I also like how you picked the lowest possible figure 😀

Con = 34%
Lab = 42%
LD = 8
UKIP = 7

Con = 32%
Lab = 42%
LD = 9
UKIP = 9

http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/