@obligatory
That isn’t what you asked though. You said “Why bother with a T26 if you don’t need decent AEW ?”, not “which do we need more out of Type 26 and AEW?”.
Why bother with a T26 if you don’t need decent AEW ?
For patrolling? :confused:
Not exactly what I said…the B is a dog,modern a/c are complicated enough without adding a 90 degree gearbox + clutch+all the other complex fiddly bits for door control etc,and you definitely will not get trouble with the ‘airbrake’ intake door and support structure LOL
Those shouldn’t be an issue, if done right. More of them does increase the probability that one of them isn’t done right! I’m sure none of us will be surprised when they find out they screwed something up 🙂
indeed, also if anything, the British can always ask the French to provide AEW with their E-2s.
Why bother sending the British carrier at all, when you could just send the French one which has E2s?
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So where is your proof then? I’m awaiting your proof about the communications systems jamming claim. There must be some basis on which you formed an opinion, so why can’t you share it with us? :rolleyes:
Tons of proof, loads of articles (one last year in AFM actually) – not to count plenty of real life conversations with service personnel.
None of which constitutes proof. Service personnel are typically biased to boot, especially pilots. AFM is a magazine about airplanes, not communications systems. My proof is the fundamental theory of how the systems work. In order to be effective this jammer of yours is going to have to be vastly more powerful and cover a huge band in order to be effective, yet you suggest I should just accept that the jammer could be effectively made and deployed (and therefore that UCAVs are useless against a jammer armed enemy), without proof. I’m not interested in who is right and wrong, I believe I am right, but I would welcome you to prove me wrong, and educate me as to why, if you believe this to be the case.
Sorry if there is a data link of any kind it can be jammed end of story! We have been luck so far with our UCAV dropping bombs on militants in Afghanistan…against a peer rival its a serious risk to the effectiveness of the system. A peer or near peer rival is going to look at jamming whatever data links as there first order of the day, certainly the technology is getting better but it can still be jammed if somebody puts their mind to it. My opinion is clear on the matter, you have to have a system with a flesh computer in it that can operate over the theatre of operations.
It’s not the “end of the story” just because you once again arrogantly declare yourself to be correct without a shred of proof. If effective jamming was a certainty, then nobody would bother using UAVs at all, nor would anyone bother with aircraft data links or any form of communications, since they are soooo easily jammed according you. With a powerful enough jammer a link can be jammed, but you don’t show how an enemy is going to find it practical to get such jamming in place. An extremely powerful jammer can be placed on the ground, but then it’s stationary and approaching the signal from the wrong end, making it easy to circumvent. An airborne jammer can act, but is severely limited in power, but then it might as well just shoot the UAV down. You’ve still not shown us how all jammers will be able to raise the noise level such that the min SNR any link can tolerate is exceeded, and how these jammers will be able to block any frequency range in use to prevent hopping. Since you are so very sure, this should be trivial I’m sure! Let’s be clear here, jamming radar is much easier than jamming data links, since the signal of a radar must bounce off you, and getting the power advantage in that situation is much easier.
That’s crazy.
Another day, another MoD fvck up :rolleyes:
@Fedaykin
We are talking about a strike UAV, that means autonomous, but with man in the loop for target verification, and probably will be the case for a hundred years or more.
Sure, you can jam a datalink, but that doesn’t mean it will be effective. The more directional the antennas, the more power you’ll need to throw at the free space in the middle. Then there is frequency hopping to reduce the effectiveness of jamming further, even you wifi router does that. GPS is easier to jam, but a UAV can go without GPS for a while without any issues.
@Snow Monkey
Of course it is, but I was trying to establish a very basic point with Fedaykin, the last thing I wanted to do was make the situation more complex 🙂
The governments (all of them) really have no idea what they are doing, so they’ll probably switch to A380 next.
No PPP “C” is a highly serious issue with no real solution! Do you really trust an autonomous system armed with bombs and missiles to tell the difference between a mobile launcher and lets say a school bus?! That’s the problem you need a man in the loop because there is no way the politicians or public trust an automated system on a life and death issue. For that matter drones manned controlled from the ground are proving to be highly sensitive…
Did you actually read my post? Let me quote again for you “one person can authorise tens of UAV real time”. Now please tell me how you derived from that statement that I think it’s a good idea to let armed UAVs start bombing areas with a dense mix of school busses and missile launchers without any oversight? In any case, thanks for bringing the severity of consequences of bombing a bus full of children to my attention, I hadn’t realised that such a bombing would have such bad consequences.
A single controller can authorise multiple UAVs, the UAV just needs to alert the controller to take a look at a live feed for a few seconds to check the target and push the button. A single controller can therefore control many, many UAVs.
We could consider showing support upon the posting of more pictures 😎
We could consider showing support upon the posting of more pictures 😎
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The only real problem is A. C is a non-issue, one person can authorise tens of UAV real time. We can’t be sure about B as we don’t know the state of the anti-jamming capabilities. It’s one thing to jam signals between you and a source, quite another to jam as a 3rd party.
This goes for most of them:
1. Cut bureaucrats, ruthlessly
2. Slash the numbers of officers
3. Make it illegal to go from a mid-level or above position in government to any form of paid role with a company you previously had dealings with during your public sector employment. Enforce this with huge fines of around 80% the contract value or a forfeit of contract.
4. Route out non-essentials and scrap them, but applying common sense. These are really obvious things, like a sauna or other absurd procurements. No, don’t cut special benefits to deployed troops such as beer or chocolate, this kills morale, but some bureaucrat would think its a good idea.
As for those people suggesting a European military, you must obtain a democratic mandate to make such a fundamental change, through a referendum. You will never win such a referendum. In the case of the UK following the European Union Act this is a legal requirement, as well as a moral requirement. Remember, we are governmened by the people, for the people. We cannot lecture others on democracy (China, North Korea etc) when we ignore democracy ourselves if we don’t like the answer!
When purchasing aircraft, get the right planes at the right price, for the right
job. Irrespective of where they are made.
Only retain “Top Brass” if they have a useful function, and are fit for the job.
You forget that the planes are funded by government, and government has bigger things to worry about tha saving a few million on a plane. Importing planes exports tens of billions from the domestic economy, and ensures all future planes will result in such an import. Money circulates in an economy, so when you export it, it circulates in someone else’s economy instead! You also upset the balance of payments very significantly. An export of £10 billion or £20 billion is not going to be in isolation from the rest of the economy, and the economy will take priority every time!
Thinking of replacing current RAF weapons in the future I am thinking that where possible it should be based upon Meteor if possible. This would include the ALARM replacement and also a possible Littoral anti-shiping weapon. I would also look at the possibility of mating Brimstone components to the Meteor package to create a new missile with a lot longer range than Meteor. With a common missile family it would have large export potential.
But we’ve already got two, we don’t need another light anti-shipping missile. If we want a heavier one we’ve only want a small number anyway, so it would be better to import them.
@Creaking Door
QE is printing money, but it’s not printing value. A better description would be that they came up to you, trimmed x% off everything you have, then used that to make more money. Basically, it’s theft.
If there was £100 of money in Britain, and it was spread over 100 notes, then each note would be worth £1. If you printed another 100 notes, you’ve not made any value as the worth of each note just dropped to £0.50.
I’m sure some will dislike Godfrey Bloom as he is from UKIP, but here’s an interesting related video….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXnsqB8-o4g
@waco
Why a new car? Why not a second hand car? I’ve never owned a new vehicle, nor would I ever own one unless the money was literally burning a hole in my pocket. You could get a Focus for a couple grand on ebay. Avoid debt at all costs! 🙂
@Creaking Door
QE is printing money, but it’s not printing value. A better description would be that they came up to you, trimmed x% off everything you have, then used that to make more money. Basically, it’s theft.
If there was £100 of money in Britain, and it was spread over 100 notes, then each note would be worth £1. If you printed another 100 notes, you’ve not made any value as the worth of each note just dropped to £0.50.
I’m sure some will dislike Godfrey Bloom as he is from UKIP, but here’s an interesting related video….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXnsqB8-o4g
@waco
Why a new car? Why not a second hand car? I’ve never owned a new vehicle, nor would I ever own one unless the money was literally burning a hole in my pocket. You could get a Focus for a couple grand on ebay. Avoid debt at all costs! 🙂
We have Youtube which is quite the game changer! Satellite is ok, but I only really watch the music channels (MTV Dance etc) 😀
There were many good comedies in the 70’s, sadly some can no longer be shown as they are not PC enough:(
Which is another reason why freedom of expression is so very precious.
We have Youtube which is quite the game changer! Satellite is ok, but I only really watch the music channels (MTV Dance etc) 😀
There were many good comedies in the 70’s, sadly some can no longer be shown as they are not PC enough:(
Which is another reason why freedom of expression is so very precious.