They may not join hands with Argentina now but I can see Brazil flexing its muscles and supporting Argentina militarily (at-least with arms and money) in a future conflict.
Aliens could side with Britain and wipe South America clear off the map… in the future 😎
Would you rather wait for war clouds to gather
Yes, because Argentina has no claim, and Argentina would have to be the one declare a colonialist war against Britain. Argentina will have to be the “bad guy” and will get all the international condemnation etc. Meanwhile Britain will be the “good guy” defending the islands against the evil colonialist invaders from Argentina 😎
Fact: For now yes.
Your Opinion:10 years down the line, the military position would most likely have been well reversed.
You obviously have a degree of contempt for diplomacy, but I don’t believe the British government shares that opinion.
Diplomacy has nothing to do with it. There is nothing to negotiate. Unless we are negotiating Argentina giving Britain compensation for that unprovoked war? 😎
@Vnomad
We don’t have to escalate things, in fact we don’t have to do anything. If anyone needs to escalate, its Argentina. Doing nothing works just great for Britain, we’ve got everything we want. Argentina continues to stamp it feels like an angry child, but it makes no difference as it won’t get them the islands back. They can resort to violence, but it will harm their country far more than it will harm ours 😀
There is no need for Britain to negotiate anything satisfactory for Argentina, they have nothing to negotiate us with. You don’t seem to understand the concept of negotiation. Both parties must have an incentive. Britain’s incentive is to NOT negotiate. Argentina is offering Britain nothing worthwhile, and Britain has what it wants, meanwhile Britain has what Argentina wants. If we are going to open negotiations on the Falklands, then why not open negotiations on Bueno Aires, whereby Britain gets 50% of the tax revenue from that city? We claim that now, it’s ours 😎
@obligatory
Indeed Britain has many, many options open to use against Argentina if the need is there, but the Argentines really are all talk.
Random place near Yeovil (with camera phone from side of road)

Random place near Yeovil (with camera phone from side of road)

A diplomatic solution already exists, the islands remain British. No need to negotiate as the PM has already said.
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So no benefits for Britain then. Making South American countries happy is not a benefit for Britain. Going out of our way to build excellent relations with South America at our own expense is unlikely to deliver worthwhile results, especially since other European countries would be more natural partners for SA, and the negative feeling betwee Britain and Argentina would remain. The defence cost is small, and the base is useful in any case for South Atlantic patrol frigates. As you said, it gives Britain influence and reach in the South Atlantic, and helps NATO project there in the future, all pluses for keeping the islands British. Also, any oil and gas to Britain, more pluses.
They obviously think they are clever getting free credit and hoping you might even forget about the payment. Money is important in a business, but so is trust. Seems the people coming out of a Uni with a Business degree seem to learn about the money, but not about how to work with suppliers and customers.
They obviously think they are clever getting free credit and hoping you might even forget about the payment. Money is important in a business, but so is trust. Seems the people coming out of a Uni with a Business degree seem to learn about the money, but not about how to work with suppliers and customers.
There should be sufficient space behind the plane such that the general public can’t get caught in it.
If I came over as arrogant I apologise, looking at my previous comment I think that is a fair comment on your behalf. I certainly don’t see myself as always right and readily take corrections from those who have more expertise. But my main issue is the propaganda coup that would entail from Argentina doing this. On reflection I see your point about a radar picket.
Anyhow sorry, I dislike being called arrogant and if I came across as such I am happy to withdraw anything you found offensive.
Firstly I apologise for biting your head off! I don’t wish you to withdraw anything, everyone is entitled to say what they like, and others to disagree. I gathered from your previous posts about your concern of the propaganda value of having the islands overflown, but this could be quite easily countered by the UK by simply saying the truth. “We had no reason to stop them flying over, we didn’t think they had any malicious intent and presumed the pilot may have had communications difficulties and wished to assist if possible. It is a great shame to see the Argentines decided to take advantage of our good intentions and our strong desire to preserve life, by using it to violate our sovereignty. The Argentine government clearly hasn’t as much commitment to peaceful resolutions as it has previously claimed”! The propaganda value would be all ours 🙂
Indeed it does have radars.
What you don’t seem to understand is the concept of radar horizon which is line of sight.
Sure man, I have two shelves full of books on electrical, control, RF and electronic engineering but don’t understand the concept of a “radar horizon”. Ironed your clown costume today did you? Also, you really should lose the arrogance that you put into almost every post, it’s pretty irritating, especially since you are not always right, though you sure do like to think you are!
In this scenario you have two options, either operate an AEW type 24 hours a day seven days a week out of MPA or place a ship at the edge of the Islands Radar horizon as a picket. The radar picket extends your reach allowing slightly more time for the QRA birds to react. Actually this is EXACTLY what the task force did during the Falklands war due to a lack of organic AEW cover and one of the reasons why Sheffield and Coventry were lost. By being radar picket you are right out on a limb!
Oh yes, you were (arrogantly) saying about radar horizons… well the radar on the ship, it’s lower than the radar horizon on the land (the radars are on hills and mountains), and so the ship’s radar horizon is even nearer, so is limited even more dramatically against low altitude targets. Radar pickets are fine for a point target defence, but the Falklands is huge. All you really get with your plan is a small circle of vision moving around the large area of sea, not the game changer you make out. Given the ships will be emitting as you claim, a decent jet would just pick up the emissions and avoid the picket ship entirely.
is there another option ive missed?
Yea, leave them in the hangars, the Argentines don’t know which hangars they are in. Even if the Argentines did fly over, do the fighters even have authorisation to shoot them down unless they actually drop bombs? Doubtful.
If that is the case, it is rather unfortunate that the Chancellor has chosen to relax the Laws for the Olympics period when smaller businesses may have appreciated the extra custom.
I don’t see large stores taking much of the market the small stores would be attracting over the Olympic period.
@lincoln7
What about security guards, warehouse workers etc who work nights and get far lower wages too?…
If that is the case, it is rather unfortunate that the Chancellor has chosen to relax the Laws for the Olympics period when smaller businesses may have appreciated the extra custom.
I don’t see large stores taking much of the market the small stores would be attracting over the Olympic period.
@lincoln7
What about security guards, warehouse workers etc who work nights and get far lower wages too?…
Negotiation has nothing beneficial for Britain, hence they are, much as I expected, refusing! Argentina wants to negotiate, but then it has everything to gain by trying. Of course if they wish to remind us reguarly of how we kicked their butt, they are more than welcome to, particularly as it may prevent them from doing such dumb things in the future 😎