pppI guess if you drive a car with illegally tinted windows, an illegal number plate, neglect to wear a seatbelt and then drive for seventeen miles oblivious of the police cars behind you with blues and twos on who are flashing you to pull over you might expect a little more than a friendly
“Good evening sir. Is this your car?”
Moggy
He wasn’t attempting to escape, so a friendly greeting is appropriate. Taking a long time to stop does not justify violence or criminal damage. Excessive actions like these do real damage to the police image.
If you look closely you’ll see, quite clearly, that the bloke’s a prick and deserves a good hiding. It’s a Range Rover, not a Hedgehog.
I didn’t realise the severity of the beatings issued was related to the size of the vehicle driven. Certainly not good news for a HGV driver without a seatbelt on is it? As for hedgehogs, they are carrying hundreds of offensive weapons.
but at the same time go overboard on easy targets
they fall over themselves to give a ticket to a pensioner for not wearing a seat belt !! what’s the worst that can happen ?? kill himself ?? big deal he probably only has ten years left anyway !!
yet they weren’t over keen on interveening to stop rioting
I do hope you’ve seen the latest episode of “Motorway Cops”! Skip to the end and you’ll see a summary of what happened, lots of prosecutions for traffic offences, oh and…
“the Crown Prosecution Service offered no evidence against the men who were caught with a car boot containing 10kg of class A drugs”
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b01bqpjd/Motorway_Cops_Hide_and_Seek/
@Bob
The ASP is for hitting people. Fitting a window breaker end cap could encourage officers to use the end cap as a weapon. The ACPO have obviously decided that this would be a bad idea.
@Lincoln 7
Unbelievable! Seeing a video like that would not encourage me to sign up as a police officer, quite the opposite.
pppIf they are being sent to sink USS Enterprise, I hope they take some F18/F18E off first so we can use them as our stop gap aircraft 🙂
Can we stop labouring a point now ppp?.
You could fulfil your own request by simply not responding, rather than trying to get the last word in and then making a request for me to not respond. You’ll find that following that tactic is also less hostile to other members.
She will in any case be very happy that you are posting this on a public forum thereby alarming every potential enemy that the UK may be coming in 🙁
What about plane spotters outside transport aircraft bases? Surely they are giving much better quality information out? Time of departure + time of flight = time of arrival 😎
@AutoStick
Would seem like a better idea to send some REME for that.
@bloodnok
LOL! 😀
@Al
We already got a big war.
ppp@Jonesy
We don’t know where they have gone, or what they are doing! This is also why the info is so irrelevant in terms of OpSec, especially in comparison to the other sources.
pppGents,
Can I be the miserable old git who makes the routine call to remember OpSec. If the boys and girls have had their phones whipped away and been told to give families the shtum routine its likely for a reason and speculation, even with as scant detail as we have here, may not be helpful.
Soldiers get deployed to unknown place, probably a domestic exercise. Yes, very useful info that to the enemy 😉 Those people taking pictures of Eurofighters outside bases are a much greater threat to opsec.
May be this has something to do with it?
My guess – US elections are near – the current bubs ain’t exactly popular, create a diversion. Nic might not be too far from the truth.
Nothing for some signals troops to do there.
ppp@Brad Piff
Nothing for them to really do in Iran. Iran would just be bombed from the air, with maybe a few special forces watching from the ground…
pppCurious. A-stan appears to be fairly normal at the moment, a lightning reinforcement of the Falkland Islands as an object lesson is possible but I see unlikely.
Intelligence that a country with lots of British nationals is about to go down the tubes requiring a rescue mission…thats possible. Egypt maybe?
But they are going now it seems…
pppI had wondered if it could be to assist with problems relating to the extreme cold weather in Eastern Europe or maybe the Argies are getting a little over excited with Prince Williams arrival and all?
What’s worth remembering is that these guys had only just returned from Afghanistan and were at home on scheduled leave.
The Eastern European have their own forces they could use, and it’s not exactly something they would keep quiet! They could be going to Falklands, but nobody is really expecting any problems there, the deployment of the Type 45 is just a routine replacement.
pppGreece perhaps? The government were discussing a few weeks ago contingency plans for if the Euro collapses, including controls on capital, closing all borders and evacuating British nationals from the EU.
Or maybe they are going to sit on the Iraqi or Afghan border whilst SAS ect go on a recon mission in A’stan, though it’s unlikely since they have their own signals unit…
Can’t think of any others that are particularly likely…
pppIt really is an impressively awful name.
I’m more interested in it having a reasonable cost 🙂
pppLOL!! China have rcs model of Rafale several years now and have close relation with France. France likely can provide data on Rafale like they did Mirage. Rafale is old design from 80s, J-10 is newer design and J-10B have AESA radar and entering service. How long will it be before India get their own Rafale? they are behind already by ten years. J-20 already is enough to defeat Rafale and Indian pakfa
Wow I didn’t realise the Chinese showed random internet forumers the RCS models of foreign aircraft. You are a lucky guy to see this model! Did they show you the RCS models for any other aircraft while you were there? 😀
pppLast ditch would be 30mm cannons like the MSI DS30.
ppp@BlackArcher
Maybe, unless they don’t think it’s worth doing as they’d rather focus on domestic production of something else?
pppNonsense ! Winning the contract mean Dassault will have more money to develop UAV and any future aircraft for France and so creating/keeping jobs
LOL, that really is nonsense. They don’t develop the UAVs and future aircraft using their profits though, do they? They do it by asking the government for money :rolleyes:
In my opinion the world is changing. The long era of US/European/Russian manufacturers enjoying a monopoly on development of sophisticated fast jets is drawing to a close.
Final products yes, subsystems less so. It’s easy to point to an Indian helicopter for example, and say it’s an example of how India is moving forward, whilst forgetting how many of the boxes inside it were imported.
I read recently that the UK has more manufacturing and industry than France has – I don’t know how true it is? I wouldn’t be surprised if the UK produced more cars than France…
Britain has fewer “large well known” industrial companies, which is where I think the perception about Britain not having much industry comes from. In terms of SME industry Britain has far more than France. France probably gives out a lot more subsidy to industry though, so how viable the French industries are is questionable. Typically when people here say “lack of British industry” they are thinking 99% about car companies.
D. Cameron :
Clearly , he doesn ‘t have a clue and he should stick to what he does best : protecting The City . I loved when Sarkozy said that the UK had no more industry , which is true . Just check what you have at home or where you work and try to find a “made in the UK” or “made in England” sticker … Good luck …
No more cars , trains , electronics , steel , machinary , homewares , the list is endless . England is a “society of service” who ‘s buying more or less everything from abroad . 10 millions of jobless people …Cameron is a free-mason crook (which is an euphorism , free-mason = crook) .
Cheers .
Financial services are important to the UK, this is true, but there’s no need to be bitter just because the financial services downgraded France (ouch 😉 ). Of course we can apply your stereotype of the UK equally to France as a nation with no industry, just lazy fat truck drivers on strike or sitting in small cafes sipping wine and nibbling cheese, using a currency backed by hard working Germans. You live in a glass house Bluewings, so it might be a good idea to stop throwing stones.
pppI don’t follow this logic at all. :confused:
That’s because you’re looking at numbers on paper rather than looking at how real wars (and fights in general) tend to pan out. Equipment is important, but it doesn’t tell the whole story. What plane is better isn’t going to make much of a difference in a war between India and Pakistan. Hopefully we won’t have to see how things work out in reality, it’s never pretty. The other reason you may not follow the logic of course is that it you don’t want to hear anything that you don’t like, shocking 😎
Pakistanis would be operating in friendly IADS thus being in a better position, theoretically.
Partially that, yes, but also the simple fact that the Indians will be the majority force and will be having to take more care not to blast each other. For the Pakistanis, assuming they are losing from the outset, the stakes are much higher and so risks are worth taking, which may or may not pay off.
pppPakistani planes will tend to better more capable Indian planes, simply because the Indians are more likely to be on the offensive and perhaps have more restrictive RoEs, whilst the Pakistani will be more desperate.
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