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  • in reply to: Preservation of Civil Aircraft #1257139
    MrB.175
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    MR.B – Could you give me chapter and verse on the fate of the former Boscombe Down ‘Team Spirit’ which ended up in Africa?

    Sure David, no problem. Not sure how much info you want so here goes (all note that this is extracts taken from the text of a book I’m writing about Britannia operations in Zaire):

    XX367 and all the spares holding was sold to Katale Aero Transport of Zaire Winter of 1983. Following some work at Cranfield, she was placed on the Zairean register as 9Q-CHY and left Cranfield for Zaire in her basic Boscombe colour scheme in March 1984. When she left Cranfield, the pilot (name escapes me) carried out a very low flypast and hard bank to the left which according to all onlookers placed the left wingtip extremely close to the ground! If memory serves me right, a certain Mr Piercey of “Propliner” fame was aboard.

    Katale’s home base was Goma, on the far eastern edge of Zaire and all of Katale’s Britannias (including 9Q-CHY) were used to pick up loads of coffee from many rural airstrips, although loads such as general farming produce, consumer goods, machinery and even passengers was not uncommon. During the latter years of Katale’s operation, a company called Business Cash Flow Aviation (known as BCF) which had often purchased space on the Britannia’s began to charter whole aeroplanes.

    During 1987 Katale decided to take the Britannia’s out of its fleet, and by this time along with one other machine, 9Q-CHY was the only aircraft that remained airworthy. Since arriving in Zaire it had been repainted white overall with black doors and titles. Following her last service for Katale, 9Q-CHY was put up for sale at Kinshasa sometime in 1988.

    After having witnessed first hand how successful the Britannia could be used as a business tool in Zaire, the owner of BCF, a local Zairean known as Dr.Mayani, agreed to purchase the 2 grounded Katale Britannia’s plus spares inventory. It was reported at the time that this deal cost him less than Β£200.000! Whilst the other Britannia was never flown again as it remained grounded at Kinshasa as a source of spares, 9Q-CHY was once again placed back into revenue service.

    BCF flew a once daily service between Kinshasa and Mbuji-Mayi that typically took 2 hours each way and carried both freight and passengers. Unlike earlier times when passengers used to have to either sit or stand on the floor of the cabin, BCF fitted 17 passenger seats to 9Q-CHY affording the wealthy Zairean passengers that could pay for internal passenger flights an unheard of level of comfort!

    A hybrid BCF colour scheme was applied for a short period before Dr.Mayani decided to have her fully repainted to match his 707 in 1990. Right up until this point, the aircraft had flown around proudly wearing the old British Eagle name ‘Team Spirit’. During the repaint though the aircraft’s name changed to ‘Mwenye Mikebwe’, the name of the grandmother of Dr.Mayani. Just a few months later at the end of January 1991, mounting spares shortages and engine problems led Dr.Mayani to ground the aircraft at Kinshasa. Although Dr.Mayani put the Britannia up for sale; knowing the commercial advantages of operating a Britannia in Zaire, he was reluctant to sell it to a competitor and so 9Q-CHY remained parked at Kinshasa until late 1993, when she was sold to Transair Cargo to help repair the damaged Transair Cargo Britannia 9Q-CJH (XM496 at Kemble) which had landed at Kinshasa with her nose gear retracted. I’m still searching for an exact date but following spares recovery by Transair, 9Q-CHY was broken up and scrapped late ’93, early ’94. A sad end to a once magnificent machine…

    in reply to: Preservation of Civil Aircraft #1258332
    MrB.175
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    the Kemble Britannia and Brunty Comet are nice examples of good runners…:)

    Have to correct you, XM496 at Kemble is not in running condition, although all at the Bristol Britannia XM496 Preservation Society wish she were.

    Of course I’m biased, but if any aircraft deserves a little more attention it’s this machine – why? Because XM496 is the only “complete” – i.e. with engines etc, Brit in existence and is the only RAF machine left from the 24 flown by the military.

    As no doubt many have noticed since the start of her repaint in 2005, the very small band of volunteers do an amazing resource with a very limited amount of money and it only highlights the issue of keeping significant examples of large aircraft preserved outside with little or no “official” help or funding.

    Of course, the popularity of certain machines plays a huge part in the whole presevation movement; and this is especially so when talking the larger types. For me, it’s sad when it seems all attention is paid to one Vulcan getting airbourne (and I fully support XH558) and a small number of production Concordes being placed under cover when still no examples of a Britannia are under cover with very secure long term housing. One may hope that G-AOVT will one day be placed under cover at Duxford, but to the rest, unless something changes, they’re all on borrowed time.

    in reply to: FAA Historic Flight Rumour- Top Secret #1269754
    MrB.175
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    Webmaster.

    In which case, I have to say Lee, you do a great job on a very nicely laid out website.

    in reply to: CL-44 skymonster @Bournemouth – status? #1272394
    MrB.175
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    Do we know yet if as suspected it is going on to AUS to serve with Heavylift? Actually, that begs the question has it been repainted to reflect the Belfast colours?

    Any piccys yet???

    in reply to: FAA Historic Flight Rumour- Top Secret #1272513
    MrB.175
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    A ‘high level mole’ within the flight revealed that they are currently bidding on a Sea Fury T20 in the USA, to be sustantially funded by a private individual.

    The source of this info is none other than John Beattie, who was presenting a lecture at White Waltham. Maybe they could get WG655 back again, seeing as it ( or something closely related) is now restored to flight!

    That’s great news, and as you say, especially if WG655 could find her way back to the UK – kinda ironic that this info came via John when John was at the controls of WG655 when he had to put her down in the field following engine failure!!!

    And for those that don’t know what we’ve been missing for a number of years now…

    in reply to: How Low Can You Go?? #1273707
    MrB.175
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    And while I’m here . . .

    The last Britannia arriving at Kemble in ’97.

    Ah, you must mean one of my famous piccys! πŸ˜‰ For anyone whose not seen them before, here’s a couple of XM496’s dramatic arrival when registered EL-WXA

    in reply to: Secret flights at Boscombe Down? #1281762
    MrB.175
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    As for the crash of the Aurora, those that know the truth know its a lot less intersting and denying it will just be taken as a conformation.

    Do you know something we don’t then? As I don’t know the truth but something out of the ordinary must of happened that night as the base and surrounding area was closed off, and if I recall, unmarked US registered jets flew in (Gov 757 I think) and at least one C-5 flew in to pick up the wreckage!

    Anyone with any more detail? I presume it may have been an F-117 or B-2???

    But the Aurora theory is an interesting one and makes great bar talk! :p

    in reply to: Challenges for the future #1283654
    MrB.175
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    Getting a Britannia under cover!!! πŸ˜‰

    Preferably XM496 currently at Kemble but G-AOVT at Duxford and G-AOVF have got to be under cover soon…

    in reply to: Anniversaries in 2007 #1283768
    MrB.175
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    C-130 Hercules – 40 years in RAF service.

    Now come on RIAT team, how about a nice RAF C-130 line up next year?

    I remember the 25 Herc line up in 1979 at Greenham Common to make the types 25th birthday, would be nice to see something similar with RAF Herc’s at Fairford next year.

    in reply to: Brunters Winter Lightnings/QRA Pics… #1283771
    MrB.175
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    When you say ‘top of the tree’ does that mean Ive got to wear a fairies outfit πŸ˜€

    Cheers all and thanks for the support
    Andy B (LPG)

    Andy

    If you post a photo of yourself on the forum standing on the new apron in a fairies outfit then I’ll make a donation towards the cladding! πŸ˜€

    Come on people, anyone else like to make same offer? Lets help get the ladies under cover.

    Oh, and a bit late from me, but obsolutely great job on the flooring and a very big congrats to all the team πŸ™‚

    in reply to: CL-44 skymonster @Bournemouth – status? #1303477
    MrB.175
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    I did hear that the aircraft had exited the hangar and some engines runs were attempted, abeit with some serious problems, after which the process was stopped. Anyone know any more???

    Malcolm Porter is the person that’ll really be able to provide an answer but if it’s true the purchase of the aircraft is being negotiated by Heavylift then I’m sure there’ll be some sensitivity which means we will have to wait a little longer before news breaks of what is really going on.

    It will be very sad to lose this unusual aircraft. Besides the Guppy I think I’m right in saying only 2 complete 44’s survive worldwide! πŸ™

    in reply to: Belfast turning and burning @ SEN #1254732
    MrB.175
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    Anyone got any further news on this?

    in reply to: The Best preserved Vulcan anywhere! #1254737
    MrB.175
    Participant

    Nice video clip…and I agree with you Peter, somehow ‘655 looks much better that ‘426. Must be the wrap around c/s on 426, never did like it.

    in reply to: Local Council Threat To Kemble Airfield #1282581
    MrB.175
    Participant

    “We have Hunter jets flying less than 250ft above our house”

    Lucky them!!! :rolleyes:

    MrB.175
    Participant

    Only one former RAF Britannia survives, our lovely XM496 at Kemble!

    CU-T121 and 9Q-CHY were scrapped many years ago and as far as I’m aware, nothing of these aircraft survives. As to the Belfast, there are just 3 examples left as G-BFYU was indeed scrapped in 2001.

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