PhixerOK, let’s have another try to make you see some sense.
Hum! I don’t think it is some of us who cannot see sense.
The generally held view by the “Bad taste in the mouth” brigade is that GA is a vital part of aviation activity in the United Kingdom and must be automatically supported by anyone who has ever been part of the aviation industry.
Did you actually read the post which kicked off this thread? Let me point you to a quote or two from the ‘objectors’:
‘One couple, who live in the flightpath, said: “We have Hunter jets flying less than 250ft above our house.”
Which continued:
“You can’t have a conversation as you can’t hear anything and the house absolutely rattles – the Hunter is an obsolete jet and has no hush kits.”
It is clear from this what the real target is, not a few light aircraft pootling around doing touch-and-goes. Miltary jets with hush kits – ROTFL
Further you resort to using much bold text:
The Air League recognizes the concerns of the wider population.
The professionals don’t pursue their job as a hobby and no one thinks any the worse of them because of it.
They argue their cause on its own merits.We expect our plans to be accepted because we can demonstrate support and we have consulted fully. We didn’t ask the objectors if they have ever played football and then decided to disbar them on that account. We have acknowledged that everyone is entitled to a viewpoint.
Where have I said differently?
I do not expect anyone to automatically acquiesce in their views because of any involvement or otherwise in any activity. You have to earn support, it doesn’t come free.
which seems to indicate that you are prone to shouting to get your points across.
It doesn’t work, you have to engage with those outside to gain their acceptance. exmpa
And you must realise that in many situations it matters not how much one engages with those opposed there will always be a noisy minority who manage to employ the media to skew arguments and obscure the true ballance of opinion.
PhixerI would have thought that was obvious, but it is plainly not the case.
As another has already pointed out, and was implied by my remark, there is no equivalence between a caravan park yet to be laid out and an airfield which has existed for years with heavy use at times. I would not be at all surprised that you yourself have flown from Kemble.
I fail to understand their logic.
Clearly and this is not surprising for you are here displaying a considerable lack of that facility in using such a fatuous example and also in the next totally silly example which follows.
Let me try and out it another way. On 1st Jul this year smoking in enclosed public places will no longer be allowed. Why is that? It is because the majority do not smoke and have decided that they are no longer prepared to put up with the effects of smoking by others. The hobby of aviation is the preserve of an even smaller minority. It can only operate with the acquiesence of the public at large. If they do not wish to put up with the noise or disturbance generated by this voluntary recreational activity then permission to carry out may be witheld.
exmpa
Perhaps we should push for more aircraft carriers then nearly all operational flying and training can be done far out at sea where nobody is disturbed (excepting on the growing number of cruise liners) and there will then be no need for the noisy RAF to disturb people at night.:D
PhixerAlong with others I recently objected to planning permission for a caravan park in the village I live in. The site was inadequate and the position inappropriate. As it happens the council agreed and permission was refused. Does that mean I cannot go on holiday in a caravan? Not that I want to.
I look forward to your reply.
exmpa
And the relevance of that example to the matter under discussion is…?
PhixerSo let me see if I’ve got this right. Because the ex-RAF pilot flew military aircraft in the course of his duties for the purposes of operations or essential training, and these aircraft that made noise, then he is not entitled to object to the noise made by aircraft operated for the purposes of general aviation, not in connection with a storage or maintenance facility or for the purposes of public transport.
exmpa
No, not without exhibiting a great deal of humbug.
PhixerJust curious Ren, have you ever shot a gun?
ROTFL
Brings a whole new meaning to ‘hunting rifle’ doesn’t it.:D
PhixerJust curious Ren, have you ever shot a gun?
ROTFL
Brings a whole new meaning to ‘hunting rifle’ doesn’t it.:D
PhixerOur bill of rights should be defended vigorously, not chipped away until it is barely recognizable.
What a shame then that your present administration is either driving a coach and horses through it or circumventing the parts that could curb their power.
If you don’t believe me then you presumably have not understood the ramifications of the Patriot Acts, do a search on Greg Palast who has much to say on this.
PhixerOur bill of rights should be defended vigorously, not chipped away until it is barely recognizable.
What a shame then that your present administration is either driving a coach and horses through it or circumventing the parts that could curb their power.
If you don’t believe me then you presumably have not understood the ramifications of the Patriot Acts, do a search on Greg Palast who has much to say on this.
PhixerPerhaps you may also wish to expand on this statement?
What a wonderful way to further the interests of the service and foster good relations with the local population.
exmpa
In reality we did need to test the aircraft systems and the new Harley light and as we were under some time pressure to get the aircraft away before contractors started work on the runway working on after the dog-watches was the only answer as it happens.
Whatever, as we used to say in the service ‘if you cannot stand a joke you should not have joined’ and I reckon this applies to those who decide to move near an airfield. No matter that traffic is lighter at the time of moving one should anticipate that aircraft usage could change in the future.
Hum! Some people have no sense of humour. 😉
PhixerAs I recall Mosquitos were planned to be used for a variant of Upkeep called Highball
Something to do with anti-shipping or anti U-boat pens IIRC
Moggy
Against the Tirpitz I think and IIRC mentioned in:
Sweetman, John. (2000) ‘Tirpitz Hunting the Beast Air Attacks on the German Battleship 1940-44’, Sutton Publishing. Stroud, Gloucestershire. ISBN 0-7509-2086-6.
PhixerSome rather nice air-to-air shots in Aircraft Illustrated at the moment, and Aeroplane Monthly on 1 May 😀
Got Illustrated today, thanks for the heads up. Superb pictures – would give my eye teeth to get in a position to take the like of those. But I doubt I would be allowed in a bang-seat these days so even paying for a trip in Black Beauty at Kemble is out.
PhixerI hope so, CoA runs out on 18 May…
So where is the fund raising and the marketing of this beast? As was said earlier, there would be several fivers flying to them if they gave us some info – surely every little helps?:confused: ….
As an ex-Sea Vixen pilot does Jonathon Whaley (he knows a thing or two about the Sea Vixen’s flap system so I gather 😀 )have this on his radar I wonder?
PhixerI am sorry, but I don’t understand the relevance of that sentence. Could you please explain why an ex-RAF pilot shouldn’t complain about aircraft noise.
exmpa
Also an ex-RAF pilot
Hypocracy.
The person concerned has presumably been able to afford the property in which he now lives by having gainfully employed himself making noise elsewhere.
PhixerI think I will need to add some more RAM to my pc though as it seems very power hungry compared to the likes of RSP and DPP.
regards
John
With use I am becoming more enamoured with LR which at first made me curse. Having started scanning reflective mater back in about 1997 and following quickly with a 28000 dpi quality filmscanner I have got used to manipulating curves first and then histograms. This was all done on a SCSI based Minolta Scan Speed – used under Win 95 on an Acorn RPC with fastest PC card and rack mounted hot swappable SCSI HDs. The bottleneck hit here was the max 32MB of memory allowed to Windows due to the design of the ASIC (memory interface chip) on the PC card. This made full frame, high res scans of 35mm trannies very slow. Win 95 grabbed about 14Mb by the time it was up and runing the TWAIN enabled PSP5, thus with 28MB RAW image files there was much swapping of memory as the scan progressed. I took to doing much faster low res scans first to get the curves and/or histograms adjusted. This is one reason why many pics on my web site are from lower res scans.
I am considering replacing many with new scans through a PC with a later, Firewire connected, Scan Elite II. The PC is about 3 years old but copes well as I had 1GB ram fitted at build (double the standard of the OEM at the time) and it has a still reasonable 2.8Ghz P4.
I also now have a laptop with 2GB and a Duo Pentium which is noticeably quicker, LR does use much more RAM than Rawshooter.
Phixerthats a good question Adam and it made me think a bit as it can vary for me on different image types but i guess most woud go along the lines of.
raw file in adobe lightroom
Ah! Another Lightroom user. I have migrated, no choice realy, from Pixmantec’s Rawshooter which I got used to WRT crop and convert.
Now with Lightroom (I have not been using it long) crop I find it counter-intuitive. Selecting ratio is no prob’ but now instead of moving the crop frame around the image it is the image that moves under the frame with a new entry appearing in the History panel each time you stop moving. I tend to move the frame around a bit before finaly deciding the best compo’.
Also I am finding the terminolgy in dilogue boxes to do with storing and exporting images rather difficult to decipher. I must be just thick!
Been reading the included PDF user guide but I do wish Adobe would design these things in A paper sizes that make sense on printers and paper here. Is it only me that thinks this?
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