Indian1973heh heh – sure sign that CABS is making some progress. all sorts of “friends” appear out of the woodwork offering something they had studiously denied earlier the minute it looks like some domestic project will kill their future prospects.
I hope the Govt gives them a warm reception and insists they bring along their *best looking* female sales reps kinda like those concept car shows. 😀
after a fair amount of wining and dining (at their cost), see them off cordially at the airport promising to “look into it”
Indian1973all the older Kilos are being upgraded. four are done, probably 1-2 are in Russia presently.
it takes around 18-24 months.
Indian1973the Agni, Pinaka MLRS and Brahmos TELs were done by L&T I believe. the Tatra trucks are made under license by Govt owned BEML (bharat earth movers Ltd.) and around 10,000 are in service with the army of various models. another co Godrej has a Pinaka TEL also, looks the same but the internal motors etc are different.
Indian1973hmm looks like the P3b reached a us navy sqdn in 1984….
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/agency/navy/vp-92.htm
it will need a considerable upg to reach the P3C-x standard.
Indian1973> to include repair and maintenance tasks necessary to return the aircraft to a
> “safe for flight condition
so PN has been managing with the 2-3 surviving Atlantiques they have. the grounding must have happened after 2001 because I recall atleast one Orion was flying then.
Indian1973well reading the Lockheed deal for P3, looks like they have been grounded for a while now since part of the work involves restoring them to a “safe for flight condition”
Indian19731. how many P3 is in PN inventory ?
2. are they fully operational at the moment ?
I vaguely recall reading somewhere they were grounded before the US invaded afghanistan and later restored to flying condition for ‘services’ rendered.
Indian1973I wonder where the IMINT stuff went ? hopefully for cartosat2 😀
Indian1973from Deccan Herald: (Chetak -> Alouette-III)
Chetan set to take off at Aero-India 2005
The new helicopter Chetan, an upgraded version of Chetak and designed by HAL, consumes less fuel thereby increasing its range and endurance.
BY MADHUPRASAD
DH NEWS SERVICE BANGALORE:
‘Chetan’, the new helicopter of the Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) that made its first ground run on Monday, is all set to take part in Aero-India 2005 to be held from February 9 to 13.
The helicopter is said to be a “re-engined and upgraded” version of Chetak and the only thing it retains from the original is the frame. Everything else is new. Its engine is changed – the same as the one that the Advanced Light Helicopter (ALH) uses. So the control systems are also new, as will be the rotor blades.
According to a senior officer at the HAL the helicopter which will make its maiden flight within a few days will perform at the aero show after a few test flights. The Chetan project is entirely funded by HAL with a mission to evacuate causalities from high-altitude (above 10,000 ft), he added.
The project was started six months ago and received its impetus after HAL’s Cheetal created a world record by landing 25,150 feet on Saser Kangi peak, next to Siachen Glacier, said the officer.
The power plant for Chetan is the same as used in the ALH Dhruv (TM 333 2B2). The Chetans will sport glass cockpit in future giving the pilot versatility in monitoring onboard systems.
Speaking to Deccan Herald HAL Chairman A K Baweja said, “The modern engine will make Chetan a highly reliable helicopter with far less fuel consumption which will increase its range, endurance and useful load. HAL is also involving DGCA officials in the flight-testing process to get the civil certification for Chetan,”
The new helicopter will widen HAL’s export market with many countries already flying Chetaks. “Chetans will encourage many states to go in for life-extension of the their existing fleet of Chetaks,” Wg Cdr (Retd) C D Upadhyay, HAL’s Chief Test Pilot (RW) said.
Chetan’s first flight will take place by January end. It will be flown at Aero India 2005 by Wg Cdr P S Rao and Sqn Ldr S Jain, who are the project test pilot and test engineers respectively.
Indian1973Russians are pushing for Kashtan systems on Vikramaditya. IN may want to add barak in also – esp the extended range Barak they are funding.
Indian1973thats the beauty of Unkil, freedom to unload vast shoals of unused or slightly used inventory around the globe and undermine others. helps to build political influence for bigger stuff.
they do it constantly against EU products like Rafale and EF as well.
Now u know what I am not the biggest fan of Unkil.
Indian1973where is the PA thread ?
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/GA19Df05.html
Karachi opens door to US forces
By Syed Saleem Shahzad and Masood Anwar
KARACHI – Having teamed up with the US to help eliminate Taliban rule in Afghanistan, Pakistan is once again proving its worth in the “war on terror”, this time in Washington’s quest against Iran.
Seymour Hersh of the New Yorker has reported that since at least last summer, US teams have penetrated eastern Iran, reportedly with Pakistan’s help, to hunt for secret nuclear and chemical weapons sites and other targets in the hardline Islamic country, which features prominently on the Bush administration’s “axis of evil”, along with now “liberated” Iraq and North Korea.
Exclusive information gathered by Asia Times Online shows that Pakistan has provided extensive facilities to special United Kingdom and US units to train them in commando operations in Pakistan’s port city of Karachi, which in many ways resembles the Iranian towns of Tehran, Shiraz, Isphan and other urban centers. Special forces from the US and Britain have staged unannounced exercises in Karachi. With its maze of high rises, communication networks and the division of the city (Sher-i-Bala and Sher-i-Payien), Tehran and Karachi are very similar.
“Pakistan’s support to the US against Iran is logical as Iran did not hesitate to hand over all evidence of Pakistan helping Iran in developing nuclear technology to the international agency [International Atomic Energy Agency],” commented one analyst.
During the exercises, the troops got to know different localities, residential areas, roads and exit points of the city, including railway and bus stations and the airport. For the exercises, the troops were provided with detailed maps of Karachi, including important buildings. The exercises, which started several weeks ago, ended on January 17, highly informed sources revealed to Asia Times Online. The troops were barracked at Malir Cant, the cantonment area of the Pakistan army adjacent to Karachi airport.
On January 11, the troops conducted anti-hijacking exercises on a Pakistan International Airlines (PIA) aircraft at an isolated yard several kilometers from the main terminal and runway, although they were provided with detailed maps of the airport.
While confirming the exercises, a spokesman of the Inter-Services Public Relations (ISPR), Colonel Tahir Idrees Malik, said they were anti-terrorist drills. He said it was an honor for Pakistan to be able to give training “to these friendly countries”. When asked why Karachi had been chosen, and why the troops did not do the drills in their own countries, he said exercises always took place where action was expected. 😀
He refused to mention the names of the countries participating in the exercises, and repeatedly said that they were simply meant as preparation for anti-terrorist activities. He also confirmed the anti-hijacking exercises took place on a A-300 PIA aircraft, saying they were part of a long program for troops which included railway and bus stations. Any crowded place could be a target for terrorists, Idrees said.
This is the first time in the history of Pakistan that armed forces, including the Pakistan army, have been known to stage exercises in city areas. Traditionally, they exercise in areas resembling the borders, including deserts and mountains, to prepare for assaults from forces such as India’s. Pakistan has fought three wars with India.
Asia Times Online sources maintain that for practical reasons it is difficult to accept the ISPR official’s statement that the drills were meant for anti-terror activity in Karachi or in Pakistan. Karachi has been an exit point for Arab-Afghans to their countries of origin in the past, and almost all of the top al-Qaeda operators arrested were captured in or around Karachi, and their network effectively destroyed. Now, official handouts from the government of Pakistan or the US maintain that other al-Qaeda figures are likely to be moving around the Pakistan-Afghanistan border areas, while others have been tracked to the northern Punjab or North West Frontier Province.
Syed Saleem Shahzad, Bureau Chief, Pakistan, Asia Times Online. He can be reached at [email]saleem_shahzad2002@yahoo.com[/email]
Masood Anwar is a senior reporter of The News International based in Karachi, and an expert on aviation affairs.
Indian1973Janes 19th Jan (I have deleted some side parts of the article to not post the whole
thing here)
Equipment deals strengthen Israel, India ties
Alon Ben-David and Rahul Bedi JDW Correspondents
Tel Aviv and New Delhi
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The two air parties also agreed to hold joint
exercises in which Israeli F-16 multirole fighters
would be pitted against India’s Russian-made Sukhoi
Su-30MKI multirole fighters. The venue and schedule of
the manoeuvres is yet to be disclosed.
The Indian delegation also discussed the possible
procurement by the Indian Army of El-Op’s Portable
Lightweight Laser Designator (PLLD), which is
currently undergoing trials at Pokhran in the western
Rajasthan desert.
The Israeli system is being tested alongside a rival
product produced by CILAS, part of European defence
concern EADS. Six El-Op PLLD systems have been in
service with the Indian Air Force for almost three
years.
Official sources said the army wants 90 PLLD systems
worth around Rs1.20 billion ($266 million) before
considering the purchase of IAI’s Laser Homing
Anti-Tank guided missile.
India had ordered 1,000 rounds of Russian 155 mm
Krasnopol-M laser-guided artillery projectiles and
associated tripod-mounted designators for Rs1.5
billion in 1999 for use with Bofors 155 mm FH-77B
howitzers. It wants to augment its reserves by
acquiring a similar number.
The future of a delayed contract to supply the Indian
Army with Heron II UAVs was also raised in the talks.
Price negotiations for 12 Heron II UAVs was concluded
more than a year ago for around Rs12 billion, but the
deal awaits final clearance by the Cabinet Committee
on Security.
IAI also plans on retrofitting the Indian Air Force
Cheetah (licence-built French SA-315 Lama) light
helicopters with a new electronic warfare suite,
day-and-night observation capability and a flexible
armament-carrying system, all of which are fitted to
the Dhruv, India’s indigenously designed and built
advanced light helicopter (ALH).
The single Hindustan Aeronautics Limited-built Dhruv
that IAI has acquired for an unspecified amount to
transport VIPs and Israel Defence Force (IDF)
personnel is scheduled to arrive in Tel Aviv later
this month.
Official sources say that IAI was committed to
reciprocal procurement of indigenously developed
military equipment from New Delhi following India’s
purchase of the Phalcon airborne early-warning system
last year.
However, IAI is expected to purchase the ALH at a low
price given its association in developing Dhruv’s
export version and its involvement in jointly
marketing the helicopter.
Israel has also offered to upgrade the Indian Navy’s
Tu-142 maritime patrol aircraft in a tripartite
agreement with Russia but the latter has, for now,
stalled the process, military sources said.
Israel Military Industries (IMI) has also been awarded
a $130 million contract to build five chemical plants
at Nalanda in India’s eastern Bihar state. The
contract includes units to make propellants, modular
charge systems, semi-combustible cartridge cases and a
nitric acid plant that will form part of the overall
facility to manufacture 155 mm shells. The technology
for the plant, land for which is presently being
acquired, was transferred by Denel of South Africa in
the late 1990s following the sale of 155 mm shells to
the Indian Army.
IMI has also signed a $10 million contract with
India’s Ordnance Factory Board to jointly produce 125
mm tungsten rounds for the army’s newly acquired T-90S
main battle tank (MBT) and is about to sign an
additional deal to upgrade India’s 214 mm Pinaka
multiple rocket launcher systems. The contract,
estimated at $50 million, will include the provision
of IMI’s laser-guided Trajectory Corrected System
rockets.
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Indian1973Harrier has the drawback of a low top speed and slow to accelerate compared to F18
but ok for dealing with LRMP or heavily laden ASM shooter threats.
A overhaul facility for the Pegasus engines was setup in Goa last year, so I would
they will be upg’ed at some point with a new radar and AAM and based on land maybe. they can defend the coastal areas.
Indian1973lets see the full article first.
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