is the report below the one you are referring to ? Reuters is a news agency — its accuracy and inaccuracy is dependent on the reporter. Is there any other reuters report written by someone else not a Pakistani ?
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India Top Stories – Reuters
Reuters
Pakistan seeks Swedish radar system to match India
Wed Jul 14, 4:39 AM ET
By Zeeshan Haider
ISLAMABAD (Reuters) – Pakistan, concerned over nuclear rival India’s plans to acquire a strategic radar system from Israel, is seeking a similar system from Sweden.
Air Commodore Sarfraz Ahmed Khan, spokesman for the Pakistan Air Force, said talks were underway with Sweden over the purchase of an Airborne Early Warning System, but no final decision had been taken.
A Swedish embassy spokesman confirmed that the matter came up for discussion when Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf visited Stockholm last week.
He said a Swedish parliamentary commission, which handles defence-related deals, had approved the sale of the radar system and it was now up to Pakistani authorities to decide.
“I can’t say at what stage it’s at, but the negotiations have been going on for quite some time,” he told Reuters.
Nuclear-armed Pakistan and India have continued to focus on building their military capabilities despite a warming of ties since they went to the the brink of a fourth war in 2002.
News of Pakistan’s negotiations with Sweden comes after India announced one of its highest peacetime hikes in annual defence expenditure last week, saying it was needed to honour a slew of arms contracts.
ISRAELI DEAL
These included a deal signed with Israel — which has emerged as India’s second biggest arms supplier after Russia — to mount Phalcon radar systems on a Russian-made aircraft to enable the Indian Air Force to pry deep into Pakistani airspace.
Pakistan, which itself raised its spending on defence by seven percent for the financial year from July 1, said the sharp increase in India’s defence spending could trigger an arms race.
Pakistan Foreign Ministry spokesman Masood Khan said on Monday the scale of the increase by India was not justified, given recent bilateral peace moves and talks between India and China, which also have been traditional rivals.
Pakistan has long relied on China for defence purchases to counter any threat from India.
Now a key ally in the U.S.-led war on terror, Pakistan argues that Washington should assist it in correcting its conventional imbalance of forces with India.
U.S. Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage is due to arrive in Islamabad on Wednesday and local newspapers said he would be told Pakistan needed more help from Washington.
“Pakistan badly needs equipment for its armed forces and the U.S. assistance should be forthcoming in this regard,” the News newspaper quoted unnamed sources as saying.
Diplomats say Armitage is expected to encourage Pakistan’s peace process with India, aside from discussing the war on terror and cooperation to purge the Afghan-Pakistan border area of Taliban and al Qaeda militants.
yes Reuters pakistani reporter from islamabad quoting a unnamed embassy spokesman. I would wait for the official announcement from
Stockholm or Ericsson tomorrow. we really have had too much smoke
(belgian f16, us f16, gripens, m2k) with no fire, so am not holding my breath.
btw other reports say Benazir first broached the issue to Olaf palme in 1995. Olaf Palme was assassinated in 1986 !! the ereyie wanst around then.
this Reuters report from islamabad seems to be the source from where other western agencies pick it up
he quotes a unnamed swedish embassy official.
I havent seen anything from Stockholm that sources from the
swedish govt or ericsson.
endurance is 7 hrs per a webpage I found. perhaps because compared to 50 passengers and luggage, the 900 kg antenna and 5 aircrew are lot less….esp if u consider the beefy swedish people!!
not sure but I think the data is downlinked to ground station rather than
handled onboard by controllers.
25+18 = 43 thats plenty for the european front which is only some
5000km max from north to south.
dont forget the other areas like north sea, iceland, far east could be
covered by USN E2 flying off carriers and Japan would supply her Awacs also. USN must be having atleast 25-30 E2. there are also P3-AEW operated by border patrol.
another one: dummy bomb being attached.
http://www.af.mil/media/photodb/photos/040712-F-3488S-013.jpg
thanks. so I guess we can end the debate now. it seems all the items in categories (1), (2) and (3) are indigenous if we take a realist view of the situation. countries like USA could make every nut n bolt locally if they have to but economics dictates otherwise. Russia’s isolation from the rest of aerospace world ensured a 100% local content long ago, nowadays even they are using western stuff like texas instruments DSPs I hear.
bear in mind though that these complex airborne systems do have some
amt of downtime, generally the more sw-intensive the product the less the MTBF.
PAF_fan, the phalcon being a large strategic platform, india plans to build up a tier-2 system perhaps on Embraer platform to cover areas and times the phalcons are not available. with a 5000km land border and 5000km of sea border even 20 a/c are not enough for india to sustain hi-intensity ops all over the place.
if the endurance is 5 hrs , then maybe. You’d need 3 Ereyies rotating as sentry on one station and another 3 for the other station. Each a/c would fly thrice or twice daily for 10-15 hrs each day. commercial a/c manage to take such workloads with periodic downtimes for intensive checks.
the israelis manage to reach around 100% untils for surgex type
exercises by using lot of extra pilots, repair crews, mission specialists, spare parts etc. no attempt is made to repair things -faulty stuff is just pulled off the line and new parts like engines inserted asap…
GDL I assume by content you are taking radar, engine as a single component ? what about the structures like wings, ribs, body panels should they be classified as a single complex component?
for an a.c
– radar
– engine(s)
– wings+body panels
– actuators
– cockpit avionics (navigation)
– avionics (mission – a2a, a2g)
– wheels!
– fuel system, FADEC
– mission computers
– FCS computers
– ejection seat
– weapons
– pylon electronics
– radio / comm systems
– ECM offensive – jamming pod/internal
– ECM defensive RWR , MAWS
– lasing/FLIR pod
acc to the data on this page the SAAB2000 production was wound up in 1999 for lack of sales. it looks like a good a/c otherwise. estimated endurance at economical speed should be 4.5 hrs going by the numbers given. obviously for AEW role that number needs to increase somehow either by AAR or with extra fuel tanks
cutting down the length of the passenger compartment.
I think there are two types of AESA. something called “solid state T/R” and “MMIC based T/R”. the more advanced types (APG77, SAMPSON) belong to the 2nd category. EL-2080 is of the first type.
from the Elta website:
The EL/M-2080 “Green Pine” Radar System, is a transportable ground-based, multimode solid state phased array radar.
Incorporating ELTA’s vast experience in surveillance and fire control radars and utilizing the company’s state-of-the-art phased array technology, the “Green Pine” radar is designed to autonomously detect and simultaneously track dozens of Tactical Ballistic Missiles (TBMs) from long ranges, under all weather conditions and in the presence of undesired echoes.
The modular, solid state, active array technology implemented in the radar, including multiple advanced transmit / receive modules, provides high redundancy, graceful degradation, high reliability and high availability.
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btw india asked for two mods to the original israeli proposal
* addition of more ELINT/EW eqpt
* improved T/R modules (perhaps for greater range?)
what height does a a/c need to be accounting for curvature of earth to attain the max range of 350km against a low flying target?
I guess the article mentions the max instrumented ranges…the
effective ranges will vary.
could some post the number and types of a/c of the top5 contenders ?