must be a misunderstanding. he also misheard (or was mistold) Gajraj meaning “white elephant” though it means “king elephant” (Gaj-elephant raj-king)

DefenceNews.com

BAE To Deliver First Hawks to India in 2007, Defense Minister Says
By VIVEK RAGHUVANSHI, NEW DELHI

The New Delhi government has spelled out the schedule for its acquisition of Hawk 115-Y Advanced Jet Trainers from BAE SYSTEMS.

In his first official statement about the aircraft, Defence Minister Pranab Mukherjee told the Indian parliament on July 7 that delivery will commence in 2007, and 75 Air Force pilots will be trained in the United Kingdom to fly the Hawks.

The $1.7 billion trainer deal was signed by the former National Democratic Alliance government earlier this year. Since May, when the United Progressive Alliance government assumed power following a general election, Mukherjee has said on several occasions that the defense deals entered into by the former government were being reviewed.

Mukherjee informed the parliament that the memorandum of understanding between India and the British government states that 24 of the 66 Hawk trainer aircraft will be available by 2008. The remaining 42, to be built by state-owned Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd. in Bangalore, will be delivered between 2008 and 2010.

After nearly 10 years of intense negotiations that often stalled over price, India and the United Kingdom signed the Hawk deal on March 19.

I have seen on Talwar the kashtan-M missile tubes are normally kept
stored inside the housing onlee the guns are visible. So presumably the
28 number includes the 8 in tubes.

==> 48 large SAMs (24 in front, 24 in back)
==> 56 point-defence SAMs (on the sides)
==> 16 LACM/ASM combo
==> 1 ASW + 1 AEW helo / 2 ASW helo upto NH90/S70 size
==> 2000rds of 30mm ammo for 4 x 30mm guns.
==> big phased array 3D search radar in the back
==> six director radars for 6 attack salvo of Shtils max (there would be
limitations per quadrant)
==> VLS for the brahmos is the same seen on Talwar for klub
but one more unit.

heh 104 SAMs not bad for a ship without quadpacked ESSM!!

Vishnu Som reports there is another IL76 on hot standby in delhi
incase more people or spares are needed. Fedex has also been roped in to deliver stuff if need be.

such quick and practical solns are never acceptable to the US military. a 10-yr $200 bil pgm is the minimum necessary to make a hand grenade 🙂 (yes it will have stealth and 24 datalinks). when petted it will also roll over and wave its paws in the air like a friendly dawg :rolleyes:

the two missiles are said to be externally similar so some flexibility exists in what they eventually mount. if the Talwar has N-12 no reason for them to use the older N-7.

well the cat is out of bag. quite powerful all-round ships though lacking in a really long range SAM. the VLS should improve the salvo rate and redundancy. A RAN40L would permit very wide area surveillance.

…..one still awaits the P17B ….. they gotta have aster30 on that one or I will horsewhip ’em to an inch of their lives I swear 🙂

most people say the U214 is today the best SSK in the business. but
germany wont sell it to hot zones.

the ancient AWg-9 on Tomcat can guide 6 Phoenix missiles. each
Tomcat would carry 8 Phoenix. phenomenal for a late 60s design.