Ok, deep breath before I start…
IL2 is different to other sims, in that you can’t just add mod created planes, or mod created anything for that matter. However, these days, modifiying il2 can be done quite simply, by updating the game from the disc to the latest version (now 4.10.1) and THEN downloading:
– HSFX Mod Pack for il2 (V5.0) then also install the latest hotfix
and/or
– UP 3.01RC Mod Pack for il2
I say and/or, because you can install both, by installing HSFX5 then UP3 on top of that. You don’t have to choose. It’s worth getting both, despite the huge downloads, because it means you’re compatible with any online missions (And people literally run co-ops and dogfights in both versions, depending on who’s hosting). (The genius thing is, a switcher program is included, so you can easily go between HSFX, UP3 or stock il2). This may all seem a bit daunting, but there is still a huge, dedicated community to help if you need it when the time comes.
HSFX found here in these pages – http://www.242sqn.com/phpBB2/index.php
UP3 found here in these pages – http://ultrapack.il2war.com/index.php
The mod packs include realistic maps (example Channel front, The slot in various periods, Africe etc), the ability to fly previously AI only planes including hundreds of bombers and fighters (like B17’s, N1K1’s) planes made from scratch by modders (Halifax, Typhoon many more) and reworked/newly created effects. Also, many of the old cockpits have been given a makeover, as seen in my screenshots (which are low res screenshots, much more detail at high res in game). The list could go on and on. Of course, it’s all free!
Now that’s out of the wat, it’s hard to decide on the best community forums, but these are the ones I frequent, and all are worthy of your time.
Official Ubi forums for il2 1946 – http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/frm/f/23110283 (Not as busy as they once were, but a good, regular crowd, good people mostly). Lots to search through and read.
Official 1C forums for il2 1946/cliffs of dover etc – http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/forumdisplay.php (Lots of regulars and lurkers, good knowledge, but also quite a few immature pratts about. The big benefit is that is where the developers post now, NOT ubi.)
SimHQ – http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/forum_summary.html (Great simming forums in general. Have a browse. There’s something for everyone. Really should be on all simmers bookmarks).
Mission4Today Resource – http://www.mission4today.com/index.php (Forums, but also a place to download skins for aircraft, missions and campaigns (in the thousands by now) and tools). Great resource.
And that’s it really for me. I’m sure there are others, but I really visit enough forums! :rolleyes:
LockOn is still very popular, but now in the guise of ‘Flaming Cliffs 2’ or ‘DCS A10 Warthog’. Both can be had quite cheap on Amazon etc, and are well worth it if you have the time/motivation to learn about modern avionics and systems.
Good luck finding a bargain X52, let me know how you get on!
Great stuff.
Saw what i ‘THINK’ was a Puma Helo over Romford, Essex at around 1500ft (sorry, not a warbird). Would be grateful for any information.
Too slow to grab the camera.:mad:
I don’t have any videos of my own, though I have made a few, but never been happy enough to upload them – a few il2 videos I recommend fully are –
Come With Me by RC Kedic – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hwjr6-f0cYA
Spitfire/Mitchell by Maximum Bob – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-kPoOoVrfc
Ambush by Maximum Bob – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mqcb6f2OqE
I Promise by MrVh69 (three lengthy parts, but simply stunning film making) – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QH107U-34Sg
I do have some of my own screenshot art, composed from il2.



They’re not especially good, compared to other il2 artists out there. The talent of the il2 community is astounding, in all aspects. You’ll see what I mean.
As for the joystick vs TiR question – if you’re intending to fly mainly il2, definitely you can do without an X52. Most commands can be mapped to a joystick with 8+ buttons, and other commands are rare enough that the keyboard will suffice after some learning time. So, i’d recommend getting the TiR over an expensive joystick. Situational awareness is everything in ww2 combat, and nothing will beat TIR for situational awareness. As I said, I use a Cyborg Evo, which is more than adequate in my eyes. Having said that, the new(ish) Thrustmaster T.Flight Hotas X looks excellent for the price, and i’m planning to get one next payday.
Let me know how you get on 😎
So should I buy the telegraph tomorrow? Great video!
I don’t like your choice for PSU. It’s better to add more money and buy 650W Corsair for 60 or 600W Thermaltake for 70. I know that that there is somewhat huge difference, but i will not build system based on poor PSU. And i am sure that this Best Value PSU cannot deliver 800W, it’s not even certified for 80%+ energy efficiency. Also there is only 3 SATA cables. In short, go with Corsair.
I have to agree in that a better quality PSU is a wise investment, however, dabs value PSU’s have a good reputation, for someone looking to save money. They are guaranteed (although I doubt damage to other components is).
@Flyboy, that all looks good mate, everything ‘fits’. However, just to make you aware of the differences between OEM and retail versions of Windows, read the second post down here – http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_7-windows_install/how-exactly-does-windows-7-retail-vs-oem/fae7b2ab-c530-45e6-aeb3-cc55cf7b9231
Also take note of any warranty/returns info when buying off of ebay.
If and when you’re ready, this is an active and helpful message board for il2 1946. http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/frm/f/23110283 (You will get more views/replies to any posts in ‘The Blairgowrie’ section, aka the off topic section.
It is still the best ww2 sim out there, in my and most opinions. As you realise, Cliffs of Dover is very primitive and buggy, whereas il2 1946 covers all theaters, has extensive yet regulated mod packages to add flyable bombers and more maps (scratching the surface there) and a dedicated online community. To get involved in the online aspect, visit http://hyperfighter.sk/ and download hyperlobby latest version. Once installed, sign into the il2 1946 room and there will be many games to join. That’s also where you’ll find me and the rest of the ’46 community. Most people will be flying ’46 for a long time to come, because of its huge arena and reliability, compared to CoD. Another couple of sims i fly are RoF (Rise Of Flight) and FS9. Unfortunately, my old PC is not up to the latest A10, but i’m saving for a new build.
Well, hope that’s helped. At the moment i’m using a Saitek Cyborg Evo, although i really want either a CH fighter stick or X52. Christmas is on the horizon…saying that, the Cyborg has done well to last the way it has. It’s great for the price. Register at the forum i linked to and ask about which x52 to get, I read that some of them have fast-wearing pots. Definitely research before throwing money at one anyway!
P.S. When your new PC is built, I will hope to hear back from you, with links to videos of you flying A10, il2 etc! 😎
P.P.S. The only thing you’re missing there is a DVD RW drive or similar. But they are peanuts!
Finally, you may want to register here: http://www.buildyourown.org.uk/forums/ Can’t describe how much the place/people helped me when I tried my first build. Unbelievable great resource. There is also a build guide on their website: http://www.buildyourown.org.uk/pc-building/
It’s unbelievable that il2 1946 can be had for a penny plus delivery at Amazon – http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-listing/B000KJRGTY/ref=sr_1_2_olp?ie=UTF8&qid=1316295496&sr=8-2&condition=used
Astonishing considering the final game has hundreds of planes, hundreds of maps, hundreds of campaigns/missions to download thanks to the community. It’s literally endless. Here are a couple of cockpit shots to wet your appetite, and really make you want it. These are the standards the modders are working at, the first is a B24 cockpit built from scratch:

il2fb 2011-09-17 03-15-40-79 by danjama, on Flickr
Tempest Mk V
il2fb 2011-09-12 03-05-35-54 by danjama, on Flickr
Fw190A-8
il2fb 2011-04-01 01-34-01-89 by danjama, on Flickr
Just after take off, during ‘ascension’.
Plane was a P51 – ‘Galloping Ghost’.
An article is here:
http://www.ajc.com/news/nation-world/official-plane-problems-may-1182917.html
Horrific description by the woman.
I’d never seen that movie, or clip. I’m astonished. I’ll hunt down the movie.
Oh crap 🙁 Really hope he’s ok.
I would definitely go for a i5 2500K based system. I think it’s easily buildable for 500 quid or thereabouts (tower only, maybe not software).
i5 2500k – £170 http://www.dabs.com/products/intel-core-i5-2500k-3-30ghz-lga1155-6mb-79Q8.html?q=i5%202500k
LGA1155 P67 motherboard – £110 http://www.dabs.com/products/asus-p8p67-rev-3-0-lga1155-intel-p67-ddr3-atx–b3-stepping–7DL9.html?q=p67
Corsair 2x4gb 1600mhz cl9 memory – £50 http://www.dabs.com/products/corsair-vengeance-8gb–2x4gb–ddr3-1600mhz-cl9-xmp-79V4.html
Sata 1gb HD £40 – http://www.dabs.com/products/samsung-1tb-spinpoint-f3-7200rpm-sata-3gb-s-32mb-65QC.html
PCI audigy 2 sound card or similar – £30 http://www.dabs.com/products/creative-audigy-se-7-1-pci-4R6Y.html?q=audigy%202
Nvidia GTX 550 – £100 http://www.dabs.com/products/asus-geforce-gtx-550-ti-910mhz-1gb-pci-express-hdmi-7DQV.html
xigmatek asgard case – £30 http://www.dabs.com/products/xigmatek-asgard-chassis-77R3.html
800W! PSU – £40 http://www.dabs.com/products/best-value-ezcool-ps-1000-800w-infinity-793V.html
That’s a £570 high end gaming system – i’m sure you could knock a bit of money off, depending on where you buy and exactly what you buy. You’ll also need a couple of extra fans possibly, and a dvd drive (dirt cheap) as well as Windows 7 Home edition minimum.
So, to sum up, I truly believe that you would be best off with a i5 2500k system, even if it means stretching slightly beyond your budget. Careful not to buy the i5 2500 (no K), it’s not overclockable (you may not want to overclock now, but this is one of the most OCable processors in computer history, and it will be nice to have the option).
If you want a low budget gaming PC, AMD would be the way to go, but avoid that x4 840 processor, the one you will want is the 955BE. If you do decide you want to go the budget route, post back, and i’ll be happy to help with that.
P.S. I fly il2 sturmovik 1946 online as danjama. Hope to see you in the virtual skies soon.
Edit to add – many components can be found cheaper on ebay, still with warranty as long as you’re cautious when buying. Seen a i5 2500k here for £155 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Intel-Core-i5-2500K-3-3Ghz-6MB-i5-2500K-LGA1155-Retail-/270786661858?pt=UK_Motherboards_CPUs&hash=item3f0c248de2.
The little savings add up, and could buy you a copy of W7. A p8p67 motherboard for £85 here! http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Asus-1155-P8p67-Rev-3-0-Le-S-L-Motherboard-/120755690506?pt=UK_Motherboards_CPUs&hash=item1c1d999c0a
Quite simply, the La-7 was utterly superb. It was also made of complex wood-laminate and wood-plastic products which no one has managed to reproduce since the 1940’s. There are no commonly available “modern” materials with suitably useful properties which might be used instead. Ergo, I wonder if we ever will see a flying La-7 (amongst others)?
During the war…
I entered this thread with the intentions of sharing my experiences with the La-7 in Oleg Maddox’ IL-2 series, but I can see you have it covered, this is some excellent information! Of course, i’m joking :p
Can anyone confirm that this is an La-9? I took it at DX FL in I think 2005 (the first airshow I ever attended on my own).

You’d think there’d be some La’7’s flying around, with their excellent reputation as an uberplane, it’s such a shame that none seem to be.
Does anyone know of any airworthy Lagg-3 or La-5 aircraft?
What’s a spinner? Does it involve heavy drinking?
Open in a image editor, such as irfanview, then save as > jpg. Much smaller file format.
It won’t let me expand the attached images, but they look great.
While it is easy to get all “Daily Mail” over this, there is maybe a simpler explanation. Collections at stores need to be booked in advance. Did they do that?
Also I found this
“In the year ended February 2011, the Tesco Charity Trust made cash grants of £1,929,600 to local, national and international charities”Not too bad I would say.
Still, carry on with the ranting if you want….
I’d give my left foot to see that almost £2m itemised, with receipts!
If it is correct, then what hypocritical *******s! So if it’s not a charity they support, they rob from you!
As said by others, completely disgusting, considering their profits.