I think the last airworthy one crashed in 2005 in Africa. They tried to land at the wrong airstrip which was too short for the plane. Ended up a smoldering wreck 🙁
Thanks for that! I did recall seeing it at Lanseria for a spray job and wondered why it wasn’t mentioned.;)
Good weather..brand new aircraft..terrorism??
Mohammed Ali Zidan, Libyan minister of transport, ruled out the possibility of terrorists being involved in the crash, the Associated Press has reported.
It would appear that the aircraft had done a missed approach, so conditions were less than ideal.
See my previous post about a possible false localizer.
Statement Five 12May 20:00 UTC.
Afriqiyah Airways confirms as per the information received from the Libyan authorities the death of the 103 passengers on board flight 8U 771 from Johannesburg to Tripoli 12th May 2010. Only one survived the accident (a Dutch child).
The passenger’s nationalities are as follows:
58 Dutch
6 South Africans
2 Libyans
2 Austrians
1 German
1 Zimbabwean
1 French
2 British
19 Unknown (to be notified upon confirmation)
11 Crew members (Libyan nationalities)
Afriqiyah Airways will release further information as soon as it is available
Local “rumour” suggests a false localizer could have been the cause. Two other airlines had crew(paxing) on board.
Official statement 2;
statement two 12May05 09:00 UTC
We are very sorry to announce the tragic loss of Afriqiyah airways flight 8u 771 from Johannesburg in an accident during landing at Tripoli international airport at 04:00 UTC. (06:00 am Tripoli time) today Wednesday 12 may. We extend our deepest sympathy to the families and friends of the victims the search and rescue mission has now been completed and casualties have been moved to various hospitals. the secretariat of health will issue a statement on the condition of those casualties.
Our prime objective is to prevent accidents from happening and every effort is being done address any failure in our safety management system. at this moment we cannot speculate further and will relay to you all factual information as we receive them.
Official statement;
Afriqiyah Flight 771 crash
Afriqiyah Airways ,Announce that our flight 8U771 had an accident during landing at Tripoli International airport at 04:00 UTC. (06:00 AM Tripoli time) Today Wednesday 12 May.
At this moment we have no information concerning possible casualties or survivors. Our information is that were 93 passenger and 11 crew aboard. The competent authorities are conducting the search and rescue mission.
Further statements will be announced in due course.
Afriqiyah Airbus 330 flight 8U 771 crashed just short of Rwy 09 in TIP
Sens and alfakilo please continue your tiff via pm! Those who are inclined to join in please do so via pm.
M’Pacha
Once again gents, be nice!
M’pacha:confused:
That would be great Wilhelm.
So far I have the F1 cz at 15.25 from the above info, I am also interested in the F1 B. Info sofar tells me that the F1B is 30cm longer than the F1A/C?
Not sure if I will build the C or B. I would like to create shapes to form fuse to use on both varients, so I just have a minor adjustment on length, canopy and fairing behind canopy (thats the only differences I can find).
Cheers Guys
PA
Mirage F1-B 15.53m
Not so.
That does not equate to advise not to fly, or indeeed any implication that it is unsafe to fly.
Nor does the BBC?
Private aircraft owners are being advised by the Civil Aviation Authority to take extra care because of the ash, but no legal restrictions are in force.
What volcanic ash does to planes
2010-04-15 19:14
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Ash grounds 25% of Europe flights
A cloud of volcanic ash drifting eastward from Iceland has halted flights across northern Europe, causing widespread disruption.
Below are some questions and answers on the aviation risk.
– What is volcanic ash?
Plumes of dust spewed out by volcanoes usually contain tiny particles of glass, pulverised rock and silicates. The result is a cloud of potentially deadly material resembling sandpaper.
– Why is it a hazard to aviation?
The abrasive effect of the ash can strip off vital aerodynamic surfaces and paralyse an aircraft engine.
Aircraft avionics and electronics can also be damaged.
Pitot tubes, or speed sensors – whose sensitivity to ice or foreign objects was highlighted during a probe into the loss of an Air France jet last year – can get bunged up and fail.
The cockpit windshield can turn opaque, scoured by ash.
Ash can bring clouds of sulphuric and hydrochloric acid.
– What happens inside the jet engine?
The awe-inspiring speeds and temperatures inside a modern jet engine are its own downfall when invaded by lava dust.
“Volcanic ash fragments are just a few millimetres wide, very hard and very sharp. They can get inside the engine and other parts of the plane and wear away everything they come into contact with,” says Jacques Renvier, technical director at French aero engine manufacturer Snecma.
Firstly, abrasive ash can damage compressors which squeeze air ready for combustion, making them less aerodynamically stable.
From there, pressurised air is forced into the combustion chamber which is so hot – 1 200 to 2 400°C at cruise altitude – that the fragments melt, then meld. This liquid rock then smashes into colder parts and solidifies like cooled glass.
Nozzles designed to shoot air towards the engine’s turbines, which turn the engine’s moving parts, start to thicken with larva. As a result ventilation is blocked and the nozzles burn too hot. Finally clumps of larva block the space for air to escape and can provoke an engine stall, shooting flames from the back. “You basically strangle the engine,” Renvier says.
– Why can’t aircraft simply avoid the dust clouds?
Volcanic ash is invisible to aircraft weather radar and is often not immediately noticed by pilots, says Paul Hayes, director of air safety at UK aviation consultancy Ascend. “The first warning you get is a sulphurous smell and perhaps some St Elmos fire” (a glow caused by a type of electrical discharge).
– Have there been any accidents due to volcanic ash?
Dozens of minor cases have been reported but no crash has been blamed on ash. Yet there have been two miraculous escapes:
* On June 24 1982, the captain of a British Airways jumbo jet en route from Kuala Lumpur to Perth, Australia, came on the speaker system at around 37 000 feet and calmly told the 247 passengers on board that all four of its engines had failed.
In an incident that went down in aviation history, Captain Eric Moody glided the jet down more than 20 000 feet and managed to restart one engine at 13 000 feet followed by others, according to the Flight Safety Foundation.
It was only later that investigators found the combination of engine failure, an eerie luminous glow around the plane and acrid smoke inside the cabin had been caused by flying into a cloud of volcanic ash from the eruption of Mount Galunggung.
The aircraft landed safely on three engines but the incident prompted new flight procedures and international exercises.
On December 15 1989, all four engines failed again when a KLM jumbo jet from Amsterdam flew into a cloud that turned out to be volcanic ash while descending to Anchorage, Alaska. The engines resumed working and the plane landed safely but badly damaged.
That incident was blamed on lack of sufficient information provided to the crew, the Flight Safety Foundation says.
– How do controllers plan for such an event?
Partly as a result of these incidents, the International Civil Aviation Organisation, a United Nations body, maintains detailed contingency plans that were activated on Thursday. But Britain says the scale of the response has been unprecedented.
The incident came just six weeks before European authorities were scheduled to do the first of two 2010 exercises for such an event, aimed at preventing a catastrophe due to volcanic dust.
– Reuters
Just come home myself, we can’t even do ground runs………….. (Insurance thing.)
Hopefully the new “Magma Air” will resolve a lot of those issues. Time will tell.
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