One from South Africa for Steve. Taken at Swartkop AFB, way back then……..

None have entered service with the RAF yet. Four are currently being “de-graded”/modified to HC.1 standard.

We had a pretty good run of properganda down here with project Air 87 (new Armed Recon Helos for the Army).

Lots of dollars spent buy the US on both the AH-64 and AH-1W/Z. South Africa spent big money as well on advertising the Redhawk, then France with the Tiger (the Winner) and finally Italy with the Scorpion. I still have some of the adds in various mags, the Tiger one and the Redhawk one are very interesting and focus on how low they actually fly arether than taking the American apporach and focusing on who’s bought them, how they have been used in combat and what weapons they can use.

Ja Worsley, if you don’t mind, could you please post the “Redhawk” add? I would be interested in seeing how it was advertised!

Thanks,
M’Pacha

Lo forum

About two weeks ago, while taxing to the terminal, I spotted two c17s parked at Jhb Int. Cos view is quite restricted from airliner windows (plus I was on the aisle) all I could confirm was that at least one was from 437th MAW out of Charleston.

Does anyone know what they were doing there?

Cheers

K

My guess would be Laura Bush and her entourage! 😎

One should note that there are always two sides to a story! Sandy has had a bad experience but many others, myself included, have nothing but praise for Cape Flying Services. Sandy’s continued efforts to smear this company would suggest that there is more to this story. If he used a different approach, he may have resolved this before it went to court. Maybe Sandy is just not pilot material? Easier to blame the other fellow??

Anyway, one can learn an important lesson from this. Do not work on hearsay, Sandy included, do some research first! Find what is best for “YOU”.
When travelling abroad for whatever reason, consider the culture differences. If you can’t “mix” with others maybe you should stay at home?

Fly safe !

I just heard on the news that Bush was riding his bike around the grounds Scottish place where they’re holding the G8 talks, and he lost control and collided with a British policeman. The policeman had to be hospitalised!

Apparently the Whitehouse spokespeople admitted it was not the first time the President had fallen off his bike! Oh dear oh dear.

A pity it wasn’t caught on film, that’d be prime for inning America’s Funniest Home Videos! Or maybe “Jackass” is more appropriate…

“A spokeswoman for the UK’s Tayside police, tasked with guarding the leaders of the G8 nations said the policeman also sustained a very minor ankle injury.”

I know the early Kfir C1’s had different smaller canards, so I suppose the article was referring to them. The article I had read not long ago about the Cheetah seemed to downplay the Israeli involvement in the program, although it did mention the airframes came from Israeli, it didn’t say they were Kfir airframes, and that’s always what I had bee aware of. Sources on the Cheetah seem to make the point that it is not a Kfir so I was generally of the same opinion.

I still don’t think they are the same thing (in short, the only different being the engine..I believe it’s a bit more extensive than that), but perhaps they are more related than I had though.

Officially, IAI denies any connections with South Africa, and South Africa denies any assistance from abroad. Nothing new in this. Just the same with there Strike Craft etc.

I’m well aware that the airframes came from Israel, but the Cheetah and Kfir are still not directly related aside from some Israeli assistance with the Cheetah program. Oh, and don’t yell at me. I tend not to respond well to that.

The Cheetah and Kfir are still different enough so that you can put them in the same family (aside from the fact that they are both based on the Mirage airframe…in short they are not the same thing). The engine is the biggest reason the for the Kfir. The J-79 engine transforms the performance on the aircraft. The Cheetah also has a more powerful engine, in the Atar 09K. Avionics-wise the two jets are also a bit different, with the systems in the Cheetah (namely the very advanced Electronic Warfare suite) being mostly of South African origin. They look similar, but the Kfir and Cheetah are not related to one another aside from the basic Mirage airframe.

Apart from the engine, the Kfir 2000 and the Cheetah C are exactly the same aircraft. That very advanced Electronic Warfare suite is mostly of Israeli origin!