To play devils advocate…. You can see that from another point of view. One of the main reasons I became a subscripient of Air Forces Monthly, Flight International and Air International in the first place was that I kew some of the photos found on these forums came from these publications and I wanted to read the articles and see the other photos that came with those articles. If it wasn’t for these photo-swapping forums I probably wouldn’t have bothered to subscribe at all. No matter how fascinating a few low res photos are, nothing can compare to buing the magazine.

Cheers
SR

P.S. I also spent alot of time tracking down some limited edition books on the RhAF partly becsue they had better prints of Steve Murray’s photos in them than I could ever hope to get on the Internet.

Providing of course that you knew who the author was or which publication to look for……..

Zimbabwean Hunters

WRONG!

Royal Rhodesian Air Force Canberra, together with a Rhodesian AF Hunter flying past Table Mountain. (It may be a nice idea to give Steve Murray credit when using his photo’s………)

I’m not going to join this flammer, other than to say that the overwing concept has been with the Jaguar since day one. As to when the RAF obtained it, I’m not sure. Attached is a picture which maybe of interest!

From the Mail and Guardian;

“Jet fighter dumps fuel at Cape Town airport

Cape Town, South Africa

05 January 2005 08:35

Air traffic at Cape Town International airport was delayed on Tuesday afternoon after an ex-military fighter jet jettisoned about 3 000 litres of fuel following an engine failure shortly after take-off.

The plane, a British Bae-Buccaneer, belongs to Thundercity, a privately owned collection of operational ex-military jets housed adjacent to the airport complex.

According to Thundercity director Andrew Barends, the drama unfolded at about 3pm when one of the two-seater aircraft’s two Rolls Royce engines failed.

“The pilot requested to go up to 10 000 feet [3 000m] from where he dumped the fuel — which was vaporised because of the altitude,” said Barends.

Air-traffic control cleared the pilot and his navigator for landing after the fuel was dumped and the pilot managed to “re-light” the stalled engine.

Barends said the aircraft, which was being flown by its regular pilot, managed to carry out a “normal and safe” landing, whereupon some of the fuel in the plane’s venting pipes spilled on to the runway.

He said the company obviously wants to find out why the engine shut down, and will conduct the necessary procedural maintenance tests, including an engine test on the ground, before allowing the Buccaneer to fly again.

The company will also submit an incident report to the Civil Aviation Authority.

According to Barends, the company has an “impeccable” safety record with more than 1 500 incident-free sorties.

Airport spokesperson Deidre Hendricks confirmed that runway 0119 was closed for about an hour following the fuel spill.

“This had an impact on the flight arrivals and departures, with two departure flights to Johannesburg delayed and one arrival from Johannesburg delayed,” she said. — Sapa”

I think its quite wrong that during this tragedy all you care to think about is how much pr coverage yout forces get….

Britain is using its C-130 fleet AND contracting IL-76s to lift extra aid, I doubt very much the hungry and homless victims care on what type of plane their food and blankets are delivered on.

Will BBC give more coverage to British aid efforts then to Indian aid efforts? Yes, of course

Will CNN giver more coverage to US aid efforsts then to Indian efforts? Yes of course

Will Indian papers give more coverage to Indian efforts then to UK/US efforts?
Yes

I find your posts heartless……..

Have to agree with you, Blackcats comments are pretty pathetic 😡
You also need to consider what time of year it is, most bases closed for X-Mas. No doubt the supply of aid will increase dramatically over the next couple of weeks. Also, it takes the Royal Navy a tad longer than the Indian Navy to reach the area. This is a long term operation and a time when “point scoring” has no place…….. If it is one man and a boat, or an entire fleet of ships makes no difference. They all deserve our support!

South African Airways took delivery of eighteen Ju-86’s in 1937. A nineteenth aircraft crashed at Rand Airport before SAA took delivery. Of these seventeen were Ju-86z-5’s and one was a Ju-86k-l which was appropriately fitted with turrets and bomb racks. :rolleyes: At the start of the war, the SAAF impressed all of SAA’s aircraft and a further 250 private aircraft. The war squashed SAA’s plans of acquiring a further thirteen Ju-86’s. The Ju-86 was used to patrol and protect the SA coast. Two examples were kept as VIP aircraft. Italy entered the war on 10 June 1940 and the next day three SAAF Ju-86’s bombed Italian camps and airfields at Moyale. Destroying fifteen Italian aircraft during the first week. The Ju-86 was heavily involved with the Abyssinian Campaign carrying out patrols and convoy protection over the Indian Ocean. In May 1940 the Ju-86 was replaced with Ansons.

Flex297 wrote:

“RAF A109”

Did the captured A.109s fly in RAF colours? I know that they serve today with the Army Air Corps(Special Forces). I’m sure that I’ve seen an image of one at Yeovilton in 1982 marked up in Royal Marines colours..

TJ

Yes, they are operated by 8 Flt. AAC but not in AAC markings……….