Also, could we please get back on topic? thanks
Dammit, man, when you’re in a hole, stop digging. We’re using English here, & “A spends x% of Y” is normal usage, regardless of whether Y is A’s income.
Nonsense! Defence budget as a share of government revenue is not a better way of measuring the impact of military spending on the economy than its share of GDP.
Consider this – in 1944 defence spending was 71% of British government spending. In 1692 it’s estimated to have been about the same. But in 1944 it was 46% of GDP, & in 1692 about 5%. Same impact on the economy? Or did the 33% of government spending on the military in 1700 & 1701 have more impact on the economy than the 25% in 1956? One was 1.6% of GDP, the other 9%.
I said G-REVENUE not G-spending & YES I KNOW “A spends x% of Y usage”.
What about UK’s national debt as percent of GDP? What about budget deficits? :rolleyes:
1692 UK debt/GDP = 10%
1944 UK debt/GDP = 200%

BTW: Anyone who thinks Uncle Sam’s massive budget deficits (+$1 trillion) are sustainable is smoking cra##.
The Stockholm International Peace Research Institute gives consistent time series on the military spending of 172 countries since 1988, allowing comparison of countries’ military spending : in local currency, at current
prices; in US dollars, at constant prices and exchange rates ; and as a share of GDPThe latter part of the previous sentence does not mean a nations spends GPD on defence. It does mean that an amount is spent that is as large as X% of the value of a nation’s GPD is spent on defence. That is, “defence spending as expressed in a percent of GPD”
Happy now?:rolleyes:
GPD? Geassocieerde Pers Diensten? 😀
Yeah I’m happy now..back on topic, please.
You said…
The US spends about 4% of GDP on defence
WRONG. The US does not “spend” 4% of GDP, You can’t spend GDP …`Gross Domestic Product` is NOT cash flow (G-Revenue).
How do you “spend” GDP? :rolleyes:
Defence budget vis/vis G-Revenue is a better way in measuring defence budget’s impact on the economy.
Oh yeah that China thingy was just a comparison….
BTW: Awesome pix. Varyag has killer looks…:D
The US spends about 4% of GDP on defence – it’s not that much above 2% for the UK. The two countries aren’t that comparable.
LOL
GDP isn’t cash flow. US government revenue is around $2 trillion, defence budget about $700 billion (35% of government revenue). :diablo:
China’s government revenue = $1 trillion / Defence budget $70 billion
(7% of government revenue) only 1/5 of US. :dev2:
BTW: US debt/GDP = 90% (100% by the end of this year)
China debt/GDP = 15% 😉
Would Israel sell to Taiwan?
Would Chinese sell to Iranians?
“Ethnic” muslims (members of ethnic groups traditionally seen as Muslim) were 10% of the population in 2002, of Russia, but the number of self-identified muslims was only half that – and very many of those are ‘cultural’ muslims, not practicing.
Note that the largest ‘ethnic muslim’ group in Russia has a birthrate lower than its death rate.
I’ve been reading too much right-wing propaganda or something, my bad.
Still, India and Russia are much more politically unstable compared with China.
No it’s not.
This from a year or so back. Let’s see what the future brings, as none of us can predict it perfectly.
http://finance.rambler.ru/news/economics/52777555.html
Alright, my bad ..little bit of googling showed Russia’s population increased in 2009 (first time since 1995).
Population grew 25.000 in 2009
Reuters:Russia says population up for first year since 1995
Straitstimes:Russian population increases
Map of Republic of China (ROC/Taiwan)
note: ROC/Taiwan claims all of Mongolia and small parts of Siberia and India as part of its territory.

The USSR was half Russian, & its economy was in crisis when it fell apart.
China is 95% Han, & its economy is booming.
Hardly comparable.
I think it’s a little bit more. Manchu’s have been completely assimilated (native language is almost extinct).
Same thing with Hui’s or ´Chinese muslims´(assimilated/language extinct).
Same will happen with tibetans and uigyrh (sp?) two generations from now. 😉
Chinese nationalists = Taiwan (Republic of China)
Chinese socialists = China (People’s Republic of China)
ROC wants control over PRC, PRC wants control over ROC.
Both countries claim ownership of the other, there is no real “separatist movement”, only different system of government 😉
They do have military/civilian airport next to Alaska (Ugolny Airport) way up in Anadyr,Chukotka.
Tu-22,Tu-160 & Tu-95 some time train up there.
Whatever the Mistrals are intended for it isnt for use in the Black Sea!.
Su-50’s long range is a must in case of war with Japan over Kuril islands.
Su-50 dogfighting F-35 over Sea of Japan. 😀 😉

Su-50 / F-35
