Absolutely Mark12 – couldn’t agree more, anything that Jeremy Clarkson has to say has to be spot on doesn’t it, the man is a legend in his own lunchtime. 😉
Thank you, Malcolmtent!
Lighten up, everyone, Malcolmtent included. OK, Malcolmteepee, I’ll grant you a free pass to rip me, and I won’t respond, except to acknowledge. But don’t let your blood pressure soar over this minor post…too much.
Dona nobis pacem Matt, actually didn’t even register the slightest blip on my blood pressure reading – it’s probably too knackered like the rest of me 🙂 . Another war pic I like, again for the real aircraft, albeit many modified T6s, is Tora, Tora, Tora. I’m in that growing group of properly termed old farts who can’t quite suspend disbelief where CGI is concerned. I liked Piece of Cake and, I’ve forgotten the title, the series based on a WW1 RFC squadron. But they technically are TV shows rather than films.
Yes I’ve read the book – Monsarrat served on anti-sub duties and he told the story as it was. Pulled no punches and cut out the phony heroics. Which is what a good war film should do I think.
Oh dear – so we have yet another surreptitious attempt at dragging us back to the Far Eastern mud. Mark12 might have something of value to add if he … well had something of value to add, or easier still simply stuck to the topic of what military experts think are the best war movies. My favourites are equally The Cruel Sea and Battle of Britain. The first for the sheer starkness of its depiction and second for the dialogue and aircraft.
Poor Moggy – damned if he does and damned if he doesn’t.
Mk12 had the last word in regard to the thread’s topic, what could be fairer than that.
As I see it there is no reason why anyone with hard news of these elusive Spitfires being found, not just rehashing the conjecture about the possibility of their existence, can post that any time they like.
Beermat is quite correct – lend lease was not all it was cracked up to be in terms of selfless generosity on the part of the US. Britain had also to sell off a lot of investments in the US to help pay for this incredible generosity. That didn’t help UK post-war economic recovery much at all with British businesses being deprived of a lot of investment derived income.
From the fact that neither did David Cundall we can only assume that he, quite reasonably, assumed the fact the Japanese had started to dig some ‘underground’ hangars at an earlier time had no great relevance to tales of pristine, crated Spitfires in holes dug by Seabees during 1945?
Moggy
Well put – that was the conclusion I came to.
A further question concerns the accuracy of the wartime assessments of the reconnaissance photos – just because an analysis of a recon pic suggests that that was what was happening doesn’t actually mean that it was. As ever I remain sceptical – hope springs eternal and all that upbeat drivel but it’s actual airframes that count.
… Clearly buried structures did exist, and may still exist, on Mingaladon. At least one such structure was destroyed in one of Mr Cundall’s previous excavations. However, there is no evidence for anything of the scale required to house aircraft.
So, for now it is a case of “Move along please, nothing to see here.”
But of course, the team and I are always ready to look at any genuinely new evidence if it does emerge.
Best wishes
Andy B
Thanks Andy for that clarification regarding the redacted text.
Believe it when I see it – still it probably sells newspapers or online subscriptions. So it’s good for some.
This is an enjoyable and interesting thread – keep up the good work.
Beermat’s question about the effectiveness of wartime advertising for manufacturers whose production would be pretty much already consumed by wartime government contracts raises an interesting point. Was the advertising an effort to show the patriotism of the advertiser, a genuine effort to seek new customers or perhaps just a part of the desire to keep their names in the private consumers’ eye until peace was restored? I know it was prevalent in US magazines of the period but did similar magazines produced in Axis countries have the same sorts of apparently redundant advertisements?
So you are suggesting a grammatical way of making do-able undo-able? Perhaps we could use the expression that’s a do-able negative. To my mind it combines the best of fake techno babble with our current trend to see things in a militaristic turn of phrase. 🙂
Then we could really have a silly old fart discussion about how things were much better when we were young and had to memorize the whole 28 volumes of the Oxford English Dictionary before breakfast and school which we had to crawl to through rain and mud uphill while carrying rocks in our school bags.
I wonder what is so important that they could not await an appropriate vehicle?
They are obviously the emergency team who are tasked with consoling a Kestrel that has its nose out of joint over some personal issue.