In the absence of any other response, I will.
Although I haven’t flown the Bebe, I have around 100 hours in similarly VW-powered Luton Minor and FRED ultralights, as well as a bit of time in the two-seat Jodel D117. I currently fly a 1939 Tipsy Trainer, which is basically like a ‘big Bebe’ – albeit with about the same horsepower!
The general reputation of the D9 is that it is a sweet-handling, but lightweight aeroplane in the same vein as the Turbulent or the parasol-winged Minor. Properly rigged it should fly hands-off in level flight, although the all-moving rudder will propably demand foot control inputs at all times!
As most Bebe will be homebuilt, there is likely to be a wide range of weights and likely performance between one aeroplane and another. A friend in the UK who built and flew a Bebe with a 1600cc VW engine reckoned around a 250 yard take-off run and about 400 feet per minute climb.
He used to climb out at around 45-50mph, cruise at 70-75 and stall at just over 30. He reckoned that landing, due to the long-chord wing is pretty easy, the aeroplane almost flares itself. The only gotcha is that if you land fast, it floats and floats and floats…….
Crosswind limit is around 15 knots if you are brave, but a light wingloading makes the aeroplane bouncy to fly in anything more than a light breeze anyway.
The one thing which does cause these aeroplanes to bite big time, is their relative lack of inertia, which means that with power off, they slow very rapidly to stalling speed. You do not have a surplus of power to drag the aeroplane off the back side of the drag curve, so you need to keep a close eye on airspeed management.
While I don’t believe that the Bebe is any better or worse than say, a Turbulent at the stall, there have been a couple of serious accidents in the UK, attributed to low speed, low level stall/spin when airspeed has been allowed to decay on approach.
Like the majority of VW-powered single seaters that were designed in the 1940s, pilots were a bit smaller then. A typical empty weight of a D9 will be about 200kg. MTOW is 320kg, which leaves just 120kg for fuel and pilot.
Hope this is of help. If you still are looking for an alternative to the Bebe, check out http://www.lutonminor.com 😉
A Certain Irish-Registered Airline would have called the rat “at-seat entertainment” and stung the passengers a tenner each for the privilege. :diablo:
Or informed their caterers!:diablo:
Don’t let the ‘non-pilot’ bit worry you too much. All aviators were such at some point!
I went the same route as you a few years ago. Acquiring a Luton Minor single-seater, before I’d got to first solo. It and I got airworthy at around the same time…..
As the aeroplane you are considering is on a Permit to Fly, your first port of call on inspection and airworthiness should be http://www.lightaircraftassociation.co.uk/engineering/engineering.html
You will also find a lot of advice around in Lincolnshire. Chase up your local LAA strut. (Fenland, or Breckland Strut?).
Happy aviating (and tinkering!!) 😉
I fear that you’d need to find a location not surrounded by NIMBYs.
A bit of a challenge in our small island!
Didn’t Henstridge in Somerset have thoughts in that direction, but were kiboshed by the local council?
Can anyone pm me with a/c type and/or colour scheme, am very worried about some friends.
Many thanks.
T-Bolt.
Same here.
Out of country, therefore out of touch.
Steve S
Always shocking when something like this happens.
There was a joint Auster / Aeronca fly in at Bicester airfield this weekend and this was one of the visiting aircraft.
Although this is my home airfield, I’m currently out of the country, so any further updates on the two crew would be appreciated.
Congratulations. Fascinating website.
As an exile from NE England, I was interested to see that it served with 428 (Ghost) squadron from Middleton St George and Dalton.
I’m sure there are some NEAM members who may be interested in exploring a bit more of that history 😉
Would like to get some information about the biplane ‘?Y-JCV’ ?
Martin
A guess is Kenyan registration, 5Y-JCV.
As Gary says, a Grumman AgCat crop duster.
Here’s one hard at work, in the hands of Bill Bowker in the 1970s.
(Photographer unknown. If its yours, congratulations!)
Great trailer. Order placed!
Happy memories of 1974 event, particularly arrivals day at the end of the runway when OAHB ‘arrived’ in the Sea Fury – full chat at about 10 feet!
If Ryanair do this and you are a bloke there’s no problem. Just get yourself a penile sheath and a leg bag and you can urinate without the discomfort of having to leave your seat.
Regards,
kev35
Just beware the effects of cabin pressure!! :diablo:
A simple answer. YES PLEASE!!:D
Melv,
You really can’t do better than have a look at the de Havilland Moth Club website http://www.dhmothclub.co.uk/ and their quarterly ‘The Moth’ magazine, which lists all the latest news.
The ‘Moth Market’ section on the website lists all recent ‘for sale’ and ‘wanted’ adds, including several projects!
Steve S
No. But I can recommend a good book! 😀
Good luck to them.
There’s also this one in the UK of course
Blimey, where do I start with this one! As for Merlinmagic thinking of them as expensive, last I heard there were two airworthy Austers for sale for around £14,000 – not many other historic aircraft you can buy airworthy for that price.
No problem. I’ll sell you a fully airworthy Clutton FRED for ten thousand pounds less than that! :diablo:
The Auster is very much the product of its times.
A (forgive the pun) austerity-built Taylorcraft with a pre-war Gipsy Major or Cirrus engine up front.
They are tricky to land, sometimes ponderous, thirsty, smelly, oily, and leak when it rains – as a Tiger Moth owner ‘AHY, you should love it!