No problem James……
I’ll trade you some more of your pics of Hinds and Sidestrands from Bicester! 😉
Try looking out Black Barn Aviation at Priory Farm, Tibenham, Norfolk.
I’m sure they’ll be able to help 😉
Came across these drawings and explanations in a 1938 Newnes Airframes technical manual. Hope they might be of interest……….


Andy Sephton wrote a comprehensive review of flying the Shuttleworth Lysander and on its flap and slot system, which is in the ‘Pilots Note archive’ section on the Historic Aircraft Association website.
This link should take you straight to it:
http://www.haa-uk.aero/pilots-notes-detail.php?pn-id=9
2009 EVENT 14th MARCH OLD WARDEN
Thanks Webmaster, for making this a sticky
However time moves on! This years event (2009!) is this Saturday, 14th March at Old Warden.
Kick-off 09.30 for ten. More info at http://www.haa-uk.aero
See you there!!
The ‘shiny red Chippie’ is ‘Noddy’. WP903 aka G-BCGC.
The aeroplane as used by HRH Prince Charles for his first solo, hence the shiny high visibility red paint and the large anti-collision beacon above the cockpit.
It is now based at RAF Henlow, where lucky flying club members can hire it!
Unfortunatly damage looks pretty bad……..Martin
Having just conversed with the owner…..it is. 🙁
Oh no. The aeroplane has only recently got back in the air after some significant TLC. Hope the owner/pilot and passengers are OK.
Very, very sad. Many in the LAA/homebuilt movement will know him best for the Leburg electronic ignition system he developed for VW engines.
As so many have said. Thoughts are with his wife and family……
I remember a few years ago someone registered a cast-iron manhole cover with the CAA.
It’s most unfair to refer to the FRED like that. It only glides like one!! 😀

Here are the relevant pages from the Air Ministry manual……
PM me with your e-mail address if you want a pdf sending to you……





Check out the wingtip vortices on the first video.
Imagine catching one of those half-way round a pylon at Reno at 450+mph 😮
Hope these might be of assistance. The first is of one as fitted to a ‘wartime-build’ Tiger Moth. The second is of the very well researched and restored cockpit of 1933 Tiger Moth G-ACDA.
Superb. I am now very jealous!
Warm, but very jealous!!
It all depends how naturally stable in roll the aeroplane is.
Something like a Cessna 152 / 172 / 182 will probably plough on in a straight line quite happily, till given a boot of rudder.
I used to have an Aeronca Chief derivative that would fly all day on rudder-only control and the trimmer was powerful enough to substitute for the elevator.
In fact putting in aileron input generated so much adverse yaw that it was almost more trouble than it was worth!
Mind you, I wouldn’t advocate trying aileron-less control in something like a Pitts!!
Pushpak aka Aeronca Chief. Loadsa roll, little aileron!