Glad to hear that the pilot is OK and that the aeroplane doesn’t appear too badly damaged.
Any news on the circumstances?
Oh for *******s sake….:rolleyes:
TT
Gawd TT, with all that rubb…. stuff you’ve got, I don’t know how you can sleep at night! :diablo:
That was last September, Paul posted that a year ago! :p
I think Mr Stratton did a talk a few months ago in Luton so he’s still doing the rounds.
I wish I’d remembered at the time, I probably would have gone.
I’m sure that if there was sufficient interest from Forumites, D1ck Stratton would be more than happy to give a talk on his career at Saro. Location probably would be somewhere close to his home at Bicester, Oxfordshire.
Let’s see if there’s any response to this thread and if so, we’ll find a suitable location and prevail on D1ck’s good nature.
The aeroplane has been acquired by the gentleman who also bought my Hindustan Pushpak. He certainly likes unusual aeroplanes!
I suspect therefore it will be based somewhere on the Leicestershire/Lincolnshire borders.
I understand that it’s needed a few items of work to gain its Permit to Fly, but it should be fullly opersational before the summer’s over.
Ha! well imagine my surprise after the sortie when clambering out of it and found the Boche had shot my wings, fuselage and tail off!:eek:
TT
Oh no. The Bader thread again!!!!;)
Had a little sit in and play yesterday……
TT
Yes, Blue Max said he’d heard “vrooom,vrooom, tacca-tacca-tacca” noises coming from next to his workshop. He was about to call men in white coats! :diablo:
Well done TT. But no, you can’t have our Gipsy Major!!! 😉
Mais un Rallye est suelement un parachute de tin n’est pa? 😀
Less high-profile, but adding further to the casualty list over one of the most tragic weekends I can remember in recent time, two vintage aircraft were destroyed in separate accidents in the Irish Republic, one with fatal consequences.
http://www.rte.ie/news/2007/0729/aircraft.html?rss
A sad time and a salutary reminder that all aeroplanes can – and will – try to bite.
Bear in mind that as well as being hugely impressive, these buildings are among the most historically significant in Britain’s aviation history…….
…they are also ideally placed in the centre of the UK, close to major road and rail routes between London and the Midlands.
…they also are in sufficiently close proximity, to offer an “Aviation Heritage Trail” which could extend across the country including Old Warden and Duxford to name but two.
If some of the senior names in our larger museums were a bit more courageous imaginative and dynamic, there’d be a strong case for proposing that:
1. From the 1960s-designed and failing buildings at Hendon, the RAF Museum’s collection could be rehoused in exciting multi-level presentations in the Cardington hangars. Some of the cost could even be reclaimed by selling off some of the high-value real-estate the museum buildings are standing on.
2. The scale of the Cardington buildings would also allow the Science Museum’s Wroughton aircraft collection to be rehoused and made more publicly accessible. Once again, Wroughton’s expensive to keep and rarely opened facilities could be sold to generate revenue.
3. A number of other historically significant large aeroplanes (Concordes, Shackleton, Britannia, Vulcans), currently destined for external storage, could be easily accommodated and presented indoors in a building of Cardington’s size.
Of course it would take imagination, money and a degree of courage to propose such a controversial idea.
But if we can get a Vulcan to fly…it can’t be that impossible!
And think of how much was spent on the other “tin triangle”, the building at Cosford which might win some architectural accolades but has no heritage value whatsoever!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/player/nol/new…&news=1&ms3=22
Great flying. I just loved the way the first cop ignores the plane and books the car driver ! :diablo:
Even as early as 1915, aircraft like the BE-2c were operating up to and over, 10,000 feet on reconnaissance patrols.
By 1917/18, flights up to 20,000 feet weren’t unusual for such as SE-5 squadrons etc. Pilots would condition themselves by working up their altitude tolerance in stages. Cecil Lewis in Sagittarius Rising desribes getting blinding headaches when high-altitude flying after even just a few days’ leave.
The RFC/RAF began to try oxygen on a limited basis in 1918. I guess it was stored in small cylinders. It was apparently dispensed through a canvas oxygen mask, not too disimilar to the early WW2 pattern designs.
One problem recognised by crews even early in the War, was cramps when descending from altitude, similar to divers suffering from “bends”. Airship, high-altitude balloon and aircraft crews were recommended to “pause” at between 14,000 and 10,000 in the their descent if possible to minimise the risk.
Cold was of course a massive issue. The sidcot fleece-lined flying suit was one answer and many crews privately bought everything from special coats to full-face balaclavas to handle it. It was also a regular thing to smear one’s face with goose fat to minimise the risk of frostbite.
In some units, to get frostbite was regarded as chargeable negligence! There is also one BE pilot who talked of an observer who had less than hygenic toilet habits having a significant body part badly damaged by frostbite! 😮
A lot of years ago (comment if you dare TT or Blue Max :dev2: ) a teacher at my secondary school told us a few tales of flying “Bothers” at a nav school (possibly even Halfpenny Green).
The single engined performace wasn’t a problem. There wasn’t any single engine performance. If a donkey died, the other engine merely added to the choice of crash sites!
Even if you were in level flight and lost an engine, you had enter a gentle dive to maintain even sufficent control authority to stay under control. Below 1,500 feet it was simply safer to chop both engines and glide.
In that situation thanks to a limited wingspan and high-drag, long-chord wing (apparently some Air Ministry brainwave to aid easy hangarage?), the aeroplane assumed the gliding qualities of a housebrick.
Oh, and with both throttles closed there was hardly enough elevator authority to flare the aeroplane for landing! Added to which most of the nav school sorties were flown at night!
My old Prof., John Still was apparently delighted to get posted back to something safer, like low-level torpedo bombing with Beauforts!!
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Congratulations!!!!
Shall we start a rumour that TT’s buying a celebratory round of drinks in The Aviator? :diablo:
More here for those who are interested http://www.theaerodrome.com/forum/replica-aircraft/31411-d-vii-down-genesseo.html
A sad weekend with Fred Murrin’s Sopwith Camel replica also down in the States.
Thankfully both pilots it seems are going to pull through in due course.
Thoughts to all involved with both aeroplanes