Difficult to say, they are both great airlines! At least you have a choice of 2 good ones rather than 2 bad ones!
I admire your stance Comet. The more Ryanair get a foothold in the market (selling cheap seats that then cost you a fortune in train fares to get to the city you actually wanted to be in!) the more our decent airlines will be under pressure to survive. If you got a ferry from Calais to Dover would you accept it dropping you off 50 miles away from Dover? How are Ryanair allowed to mis-sell like this?
Sorry Coanda but 2 of the first 3 posts refer to landing nosewheel first so that is where the ‘suggestion’ is coming from.
Body angle is not a factor when referring to pure angle of attack. However during the landing flare the aircraft must transition form the attitude required for the desired descent rate for ground contact to the correct attitude for the airframe to arrive in. If the aircraft wing is correctly set up on the aircraft axis (for a landing configuration) these two angles will be the same. Any aircraft where they are not the same will be a pig to land. If as is claimed this aircraft is designed to land on unprepared strips the intent will be to touch down on the 2 sets of mainwheels first, apply maximum possible braking while keeping as much load as possible off the nosewheels.
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wys
My third hand (and free) Nokia 3210 is the biz. It makes calls and receives them. Isn’t that what mobiles are supposed to do?
My third hand (and free) Nokia 3210 is the biz. It makes calls and receives them. Isn’t that what mobiles are supposed to do?
Rough field take off/landing technique involves protecting the nosewheels as much as possible rather than trying to put as much energy as possible through them!
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wys
Barnes Wallis was always a practical man and one thing that Concorde has never been is practical. I can see his point.
All that cost cutting yet such vast golden handshakes to management. Surely it’s not too difficult to see where the accountants axe should be directed.
This is exactly the problem as I see it. The shareholders are after results today AT ANY COST. The fact that to obtain these results the workforce have been ground into the dirt seems to be of no concern just as long as those figures are ok.
Mongu – I don’t disagree with anything you have put in your post and in fact I think it is essential that the costings are given a high priority. However what I am trying to say is that if you consider a ratio between cost balancing and staff morale, it is my opinion (and appears to be most other peoples opinion too) that the balance has done from 50/50 a few years ago to 80/20 now and in Ryanairs case 100/0.
To put it another way, I believe a Managing Director must be a balanced individual capable of seeing all sides of the argument but strong enough to follow his/her own gut instinct when necessary. The MD will get pressure from 2 primary sides – his accountants and his managers. Success comes from blending the two, but if one is given too much influence you are set for a fall. If the accountant is not reigned in the company will initially show great success but then fail because of total depression within the workforce, and if the management make it too staff orientated the company will suffer from the workers not being hungry enough for success.
Galdri – I’ve always fancied the CAP10. It’s just one of those aeroplanes that looks right! I haven’t been able to get in any GA flying for the last couple of years because of commitments to my young family but I hope to change that when my boys hopefully start to take an interest. Shame about having a seat change for the 737. Which did you prefer, the 228 or the ATR?
There are 2 things that limit carrying capacity, actual weight limitations and internal volume/layout. The volume/layout case is best shown by the excellent Shorts 330/360 as the square fuselage section is ideal for putting in large number of square boxes which do not fit well in a round section fuselage. Opening up the galley areas on Concorde would help in the volume/layout case but this is the smaller part of the problem. The major consideration is the max payload which is much more restrictive and pretty well set in stone. If the aircraft is currently running at the max design payload, raising that figure with the licensing authorities would require massive structural reworking of the aircraft plus a complete reworking of all the performance side of the operations. Again for such a small number of airframes I cannot see this being viable.
As somebody recently said this is purely a prestige exercise and one that I don’t think even Virgin can be affording to do with another Gulf War imminent.
Mongu – please don’t take this the wrong way but there seems to be a definite trend emerging amongst accountants over the last few years. It is undeniable that a company must involve the accountant in order to maintain the success of its operation but somewhere along the line the accountants role has moved the boundary of balancing books against valueing the dedication of your staff. This is becoming noticeable in just about all walks of life with the company accountant becoming just about the most feared (and powerful) department in each business.
Ryanair seem to have taken this to the ultimate level and are showing ZERO human consideration, not just for staff but also the customer. How can this be good in the long term? It appears an accountants dream as the numbers on paper must look fantastic. Unfortunately life is more than just numbers.
Nothing personal but my job is more under threat from the bean counters than from my own management!
wys
Batbay – delighted to help. I’d like to post more along these lines but I don’t want to be considered a bore!
Bhoy – thanks for reminding me of one of my most favourite moments of television…and how relevant your quote!
There are times when I like to let a thread run for a while before I make a comment and this has been the case with the age concern mentioned in this thread. I think it is very easy to say ground all old aircraft as a knee jerk reaction but the reality is more complex than that. An airline is only as good as its engineering department. I would rather fly on a 30+ year old but well maintained jet than a brand new jet operated by some third world regions with dubious line maintenance programs. I know of an outfit that has 5 ex-Russian operated 757’s. The Russian operator obtained the airframes new but there is no known maintenance record for this period of time. The new operator accepted the 5 aircraft on condition that Boeing did a complete inspection on these aircraft before taking up the leases, which they did and now the aircraft are maintained to UK CAA standards. Now if I had to chose whether I’d rather fly on them now or when they were Russian…
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wys
Thanks Kenneth, I didn’t realise the Junior and the Monsun were not too related.
Galdri – are you still doing any GA flying? Is your current office the 228 or the ATR?