The DST was the first varient of the DC-3 family produced, full passeneger versions were known as DC-3.
Tom.
The DC-3 was known by Douglas as the Douglas Aircraft Company Transport, or DACoTA, and so the RAF adopted that name with a small twist.
Tom.
When you say add another Dak to the UK register, are you intending to give it a G- Reg? If so you may find it easier and cheaper to leave it on the N reg, especially from a maintenance point of view.
I would suggest talking to PPS at Booker (maintainers of N1944A) and Air Atlantique at Coventry as they are the two main knowledge pools when it comes to Daks in the UK.
Tom
Would it not require to have proper seats, proper escape routes etc as well? The amount of seats it could have as a public transport aircraft are going to be limited, and I think the CAA would have a fit about thinking of passengers having to scrabble over the 2 spars to get out in an emergency. Certainly IIRC seating arrangements on the Vickers Varsity accident G-BDFT in 1984 were a matter of concern to the CAA, and would likely be the same on the Shack…
Besides, the amount of passengers versus the cost of the flights, I cannot see it being economical in the slightest. If it was possible, I am sure Air Atlantique would have tried.
Yes, but it’s this sort of thing where the expense begins to mount as new additions such as seats, slides etc would need to be certified to public transport standards.
In theory I suppose it could be done, but not without an immense amount of money, the likes of which would probably fund the restoration to flight of several Vulcans!
Permit to fly is the only way forward for an aircraft like this, which means no passengers.
Tom.
The Shackleton has never been on the civilian register in the UK and in order to carry out public transport would have to undergo the same certification process as any other new aircraft. The sheer cost of this process makes it extremely unlikely to ever happen. It will only ever fly on a permit to fly.
The figures being thrown around the office when I was still at Coventry ranged from 3 to 5 million pounds needed to get the Shack airborne again. A large mountain to climb but I wish them the best of luck. To see her flying again would be fantastic!
Tom
Could be some form of tie up with DHA. I believe the intention of this “new” Classic Flight Club is to not only support Classic Flight’s aircraft, but others too. You may also have noticed a Sea Prince gets a mention.
Tom.
She was repainted into Eagle colours earlier this year in order to celebrate both APSA’s 50th anniversary and the 40th anniversary of the end of British Eagle.
On November 7th she will recreate the last ever British Eagle schedule from Rotterdam to Heathrow exactly 40 years to the day. This follows a short European tour. More info at http://www.thedc6.com.
Tom.
It’s in for a total re-paint – strip to bare metal and out in the same scheme. I believe the owner wasn’t happy with the patchwork appearance, particularly on the undersides of the wings.
Tom.
Large 4 engined propliner just flown over Blackbushe heading north – I only saw it at the last minute but looked like the DC6.
Bazza
Confirmed, seen heading east just to the North of Farnborough.
Tom.
Excellent stuff! The more Percival restorations the better 😀
Keep up the good work chaps!
Tom.
Anyone who operates an aircraft on an AOC would have been required to conform to EU-OPS and to give you some idea of the ludicrousy involved, whilst checking the requirements for putting our Tiger Moth onto one, we find we are required to fit cockpit lighting.
Cockpit lighting…………… in a day time only VFR OPEN COCKPIT aircraft……..!
I am hoping that someone in the Authority will see common sense when we reach the stage where that issue is tackled, but it shows what operators are up against.
I noted that both Air Atlantique’s Rapides now sport ghastly white strobe lights too, more victims of EU-OPS.
Tom.
Whilst I was there earlier this month she was looking a little more complete and re-spraying of various parts of the airframe was taking place. I can’t imagine it will be long before it emerges now.
Tom.
Primate,
The glider is a S-1 Swift, expertly flown by Guy Westgate. Have a look at their website: http://www.swiftteam.airshows.org.uk/
Tom
I believe the early landing of the reds was due to a bird strike, but don’t quote me on that, it’s just the rumour around Farnborough.
Tom.
Just wondering and I probably no it would never be allowed what with the recent dc3 flight ban. Would there be a chance for NX611 having seats installed and having flights in a lanc like at cwh?
Almost certainly not I’m afraid. I would image a civilian owned Lancaster would operate on a Permit to Fly, and this instantly rules out any chance of the public being allowed to fly on her.
Tom.