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  • in reply to: What are aviation museums for? #1257782
    Tom H
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    To respond…

    I am an enthusiast! A volunteer in the museum for 14 years before becoming ED, a pilot, a homebuilder of aircraft and come from a family with a 60+ year history in aviation.

    That is not meant as invitation to start an agruement or slight anyone, just being an ED does not make a person any less of an enthusiast.

    If fact only an enthusiast would be passionate enough to do it.

    What a museum is for? covers a lot of turf and I have tried to address it from both sides and get some feed back.

    Tom H

    in reply to: What are aviation museums for? #1257942
    Tom H
    Participant

    Boy….as Executive Director of the Alberta Aviation Museum this one hits home with me.

    A museums primary job is to preserve the piece of history and the related artifacts it has chosen by it’s mission statement. This includes the aircraft, archives and artifacts as well as the history of the people.

    In our case the aviation history of 1st “Edmonton”, 2nd “Northern Alberta” and “Canada’s North”, 3rd “Canada”as it relates to “Edmonton” and the rest of “The World” as it relates to Edmonton.

    To this end we have an extensive collection based primarily on Edmonton, a great research library and extensive traditional and photo archives.

    Next is Education, educating the public on the basis of the Mission statement.

    We have programs for schools from Kindergarten through Grade six and in the new year will be adding programming for junior high school, high school and adult interest. All ciriculm based.

    Last is it must survive, which in this day and age means as a Private Not for Profit we must generate income, which means we must create and entertaining and desireable facility.

    This comes down to how you display, programs offerred, special events, marketing and advertising.

    Here we have done well with 1 or more events each month, interactive exhibits, several flight sims, interactive computer education stations and soon to be adding a series of 6 and 9 seat mini theaters on the back side of the aircraft othat are on display so we can tell even more of the story.

    We have paid careful attention to what visitors have told us and the collection is in a chronological order (seperated into military and civil) with good display cabinets already using some video. The aircraft are displayed so that there is a minimum of 1 appealing angle on each aircraft to photograph plus we still allow guests to get right up to the aircraft to look at them (but please not touch). Our restoration department is also open to our guests.

    We have UV protected our windows to save the collection and try and maintain a balance on lighting to provide mood but still allow good lighting for picture takers.

    Check our website http://www.albertaaviationmuseum.com and let me know how we have done.

    Flying aircraft are a problem and it comes down to cost. We have not been able to operate our collection to this point due to dollars and cents…it’s expensive and collectors continue to drive the costs up on historical aircraft.

    I would like to see more flying aircraft, but money is the issue and we end up relying on guest aircraft to represent living history at our events.

    It sucks but that is the way it is.

    As a not for porfit we keep swinging and trying to do a better and better job so threads such as this are important to get the information across to us as a museum.

    Tom H

    in reply to: How are you spending the Battle of Britain weekend #1260386
    Tom H
    Participant

    Well I guess based on the responses of the board , here at least it is not a case of not caring…

    Today we had (5) Air Cadet squadrons on parade as well as veterans, about 1000 people.

    In the far off bastions of Canada, we remember and celebrate the victory the Battle of Britain represents.

    Tom H

    in reply to: How are you spending the Battle of Britain weekend #1261560
    Tom H
    Participant

    This might be a dumb colonial question…

    Are there no more Battle of Britain parades?

    Tonight I sit here writing the final parade schedule, parade order and annouced guest list for our Battle of Britain Parade tommorow (Sunday September 16th) and I guess this is a piece of history we are forgetting about as we chase the technology of the day.

    The Battle of Britain involved pilots from every allied nation including the USA, who had not officially become involved yet.

    Possibly the greatest air battle the world will ever see and a most decisive one as if the Luftwaffe had succeeded Britain would have surely fallen.

    The notes read like a movie script….700 young pilots standing against an invincilbe force and holding back an army of 250,000.

    Reads like the next Star Wars episode…but has fallen from the free worlds mind…kind of sad.

    But I will be on parade tommorow, along with several hundred others here in Edmonton.

    Tom H

    Tom H

    in reply to: Why we must fight for history. #1267811
    Tom H
    Participant

    This is how I prefer to fight back….education, knowledge is power.

    Sorry the text is biased for a picture from our collection of a Hurricane going gear up.

    Battle of Britain 2007

    Press release 1

    The 700 Wing Air Force Association of
    Canada, Alberta Aviation Museum and
    Edmonton Aviation Heritage Society are
    pleased to invite Edmontonians to join us
    for the Annual “Battle of Britain” Parade
    September 16th starting at 10:30am at the
    Alberta Aviation Museum.

    Coming on the heels of the recent
    controversy of the Canadian War
    Museum’s plaque on the allied bombing
    campaign the “Battle of Britain” parade
    celebrates and honours the bravery,
    dedication and selflessness of the fighter
    pilots of the RAF, Canada and other allied nations defending England against the “Strategic Bombing” by the Nazi Luftwaffe in 1940.

    This small group of 700 allied fighter pilots known as “The Few” stood against and overwhelming force of 3000 Nazi Luftwaffe aircraft and stopped Hitler’s advance across Europe.

    Edmontonians such as Peter “Cowboy” Blatchford, son of Edmonton Mayor Ken Blatchford, as well as others that were among “The Few”, so we take pride in celebrating their stand and sacrifice for freedom each September on the first Sunday after the 15th. The “Battle of Britain” began July, 1940 and ran through October, 1940. The 15th of September is considered by many to be the turning point were the Luftwaffe determined that they could not win.

    This year we will also be running the movie “Battle of Britain” the night of September 14th at 7:00pm as part of our winter Museum and a Movie program. Regular Museum admission applies.

    Thomas Hinderks
    Executive Director
    Alberta Aviation Museum
    Edmonton Aviation Heritage Society

    in reply to: Why we must fight for history. #1277851
    Tom H
    Participant

    This is the letter sent by our Museum President to the Editor of the newspaper involved. It was published in the newspaper today Sept/4/2007

    As someone who has spent his entire adult life writing and teaching history, including courses on Canadian Military History, Twentieth Century Warfare and the History of the Second World War, I consider myself a fully paid up member of the professional historians’ union. I have also been for some years President of the Alberta Aviation Museum and I understand and sympathize with the problems museums have in attempting to present an accurate idea of the past in the face of all kinds of competing pressures. Why is it then that I find myself more in sympathy with those who pushed for changes to the War Museum’s strategic bombing exhibit than with the professional historians who wrote and are now defending every word of the display?

    One of the things that bothers me is that the media has almost unanimously portrayed this episode as one in which a beleaguered band of dispassionate scholars tries to uphold the truth against a powerful veterans’ lobby. The controversy, in fact, originated at the end of the Second World War with a project called the United States Strategic Bombing Survey which was more about American inter-service rivalries in the post-war era than about the war itself. Since then it has been mostly between different groups of historians who disagree about the morality and effectiveness of the bombing; two things that are inextricably linked. The veterans, who understandably prefer the version of the history of strategic bombing that sees it as an essential contribution to the winning of the war have some political clout but they are also are very much the underdogs in the war of words because they lack the analytical training and rhetorical skills of the historians.

    Those veterans and non-veterans who object to the War Museum exhibit are not asking for a wholesale revision. Most of the controversy centres around a single paragraph:
    “The value and morality of the strategic bomber offensive against Germany remains bitterly contested. Bomber Command’s aim was to crush civilian morale and force Germany to surrender by destroying its cities and industrial installations. Although Bomber Command and American attacks left 600,000 Germans dead and more than five million homeless, the raids resulted in only small reductions of German war production until late in the war.” As the supporters of the exhibit have pointed out at length, each of the three sentences in the paragraph is, by itself, undeniably true. Together, in my estimation, they are completely one-sided. The first sentence suggests that the rest of the paragraph is going to present both sides, or perhaps some middle position in the debate. It does neither. The other two sentences, taken together, are a highly compressed summary of what the critics of the strategic bombing campaign have said over the years. It didn’t work and it killed many thousands, by implication, for no legitimate purpose. The other side of the argument gets not a word.

    The statement that the bombing campaign resulted in only small reductions in German war production comes from the USSBS and has been a favorite point over the years of those who deplore the bombing campaign on moral grounds. Randall Hansen, in the article in Friday’s Journal, tries to defend against the most obvious weakness of the argument by asserting that any claims that production would have been higher without the bombing are, ‘One-sided counter-factual speculation.’ There is really no need to speculate, however, because there are facts in abundance to support the common sense idea that thousands of tons of bombs had to have a significant effect. German military production fell in spite of the fact that Hitler took over the industries and resources of France, Belgium, the Netherlands, Czechoslovakia, Poland and acquired the services of millions of slave laborers. While German production was falling, that of the Allies (not subject to bombing) was doubling or tripling annually. Historians like Richard Overy have also pointed out that the effort to defend against the bombers absorbed the efforts of about 2 million Germans and, at the time of the critical Eastern Front battles of Kursk and Stalingrad, 70% of all German fighter aircraft.
    The question that the controversy raises for the War Museum and those who finance it (we Canadian taxpayers) is, Whose history is it anyway? Does it belong only to the professional historians, or do those who participated have a say? I find Randall Hansen’s assertion that the veterans are too ignorant and self-interested to be allowed a voice and should therefore just butt out, incredibly arrogant and condescending.

    Rod Macleod
    Professor Emeritus of History and Classics, University of Alberta
    President, Alberta Aviation Museum

    Posted with permisson of our President

    Tom H

    in reply to: Why we must fight for history. #1279184
    Tom H
    Participant

    What I find remarkable and pleasing, is no one has on this thread screamed about not allowing Mr Hansen to be able to say his piece.

    To make it clear how I feel…

    I will scream and fight to protect Mr. Hansen’s right to spew this garbage just as hard as I will fight to get him to repeal it and keep the record true.

    I do not believe any veteran would advocate censoring Mr. Hansen. But I get very frustrated with Mr. Hansen and the modern media’s attitude and feel we need to fight to keep history reflective of what actually happened.

    “Those that do not learn from History are destined to repeat it” I certainly do not want my children to have to fight for freedoms that have already been won so I try very hard to stand for the things I believe are right.

    And the definition given on this thread of history is wonderful, note nowhere in that definition does it say history should be interpeted for you.

    Tom H

    in reply to: Why we must fight for history. #1280590
    Tom H
    Participant

    Presentations of history do need to be corrected from time to time as new information or discoveries come availabile…any Museum trying to be good will do their best to stay aware of new information and do their best to include it.

    What I hate are those that try to alter history in spite of the facts.

    Tom H

    in reply to: What does aircraft preservation mean to you? #1294021
    Tom H
    Participant

    When dealing with the preservation movement one must keep in mind there are as many different facets as there are people.

    In it’s very basic form are we not simply preserving the history for the next generations? By doing it well and being accurate we are leaving a legacy that will carry for generations. To me it does not matter flying or not, it is the ability of those not yet born to be able to access the achievement of those that have gone before.

    The artifacts are just to tools, it is the people that made the history. But how can you understand the challenges if you cannot experience the setting.

    Can you imagine in another 100years a teen coming to the museum and after hearing a nice dialouge on a winter mercy flight in the 1920’s he looks at an open cockpit airplane covered in fabric? Thats what make the preservation important.

    If we all within the movement work together pieces of our history can serve many generations to come, allowing for an appreciation of what it took to get to where the viewer is. For young people today and for many generationis to come.

    Tom H

    in reply to: Alberta Aviation Museum…have you visited us? #1299075
    Tom H
    Participant

    Thanks for the kind words Albert!

    We now have a total of 38 aircraft on display or in restoration making us one of the larger Canadian Collection. The biggest artifact is of course our building, originally #2 Air Observers School she looks to be the last double wide double long BCATP hangar.

    The credit to our growth goes to a great volunteer base and the suport of the many organizations that work in the facility with us.

    Carpetbagger

    Nice to hear you remember 418 Squadron…we are currently pushing a letter campaign to get 418 reactivated as a helicopter squadron here in Edmonton!

    The Boston of coursre is on our acquisitionlist and we follow every lead to the bitter end. To this point we have located 2 but they are far beyond our means as a 7 figure price tag is alot for a not for profit musesum. But so far 418 has a number of it’s types represented in the Musseum
    – Mosquito
    – B-25
    – T-33
    – Expediter
    and we work toward the rest

    Thanks again gents

    Tom H

    in reply to: Hypothetical aircraft to break the highspeed record #1307710
    Tom H
    Participant

    Examples are no problem…how about a selection from different decades.

    1970…Mark Donahue’s Indy 500 winning Johnny Lightning Special using a 220 cubic inch Offtenhauser on Alcohol/Supercharged was putting out around 1000hp…for 3hrs to win.

    1985…Williams/Renault F1, reputed to have been putting out over 1200hp from 1.5L (91 cubic inches)Trubo charged, BMW was similar.

    1991?…I think it was the Electromotive Nissan GTP Car running in IMSA endurance was pumping 1600hp from 3.0L Twin Turbo yadda yadda.

    Porsche through the ame time period (anad others) were also building engines of similar power ranges for duration type events.

    And lets not forget the Pond Racer…pair of IMSA 3.0L Twin Turbo Nissan engines that were supposed to be putting uot somewhere between 1000 and 1600hp.

    Technology has jumped a bunch since…new turbo charging and EFI technology and the advent of ceramics has lead to a huge hp jump.

    Tom H

    in reply to: Hypothetical aircraft to break the highspeed record #1307953
    Tom H
    Participant

    The modern automotive racing engine has become a technology all it’s own.

    Building a 6,000hp fresh sheet engine that would be 1/2 the weight and size of the Griffon is well within grasp…and it would be just as reliable.

    Rather than beat everyone over the head with examples I will just point out that Endurance Racing has been achieving the required power levels (per litre) for years with at least comparable reliability to the Reno racers.

    As far as torque…don’t forget your 10,000 rpm race engine has to reduce to a prop RPM of maybe 1/4 that, the 4:1 gearing multiples the torque of the engine.

    Hp vs Torque…..most racers talk hp because it relates to maximum speed, don’t think for a minute that they are not as smart as the aviation crowd…as a matter of fact when it comes to engines they are gnerically much much more enlightened.

    The Sport Class at Reno is pointing the direction to head in Reno.

    Lancair IV’s lapping at 350+ mph on 1/10th the power of the unlimited…the new technology is coming.

    The best part is when it arrives think of all the historic aircraft that will be availabile for preservation and restoration!

    Tom H

    in reply to: CF-104/F-104 #1310455
    Tom H
    Participant

    Thanks for your help SeaDog

    He should speak to

    Tom Hinderks
    Executive Director
    Alberta Aviation Museum
    11410-Kingsway Avenue
    Edmonton, Alberta

    780-453-1078 office, 0830 to 1800 (or later) daily
    780-907-8455 cell phone, till 2100 at night
    [email]eahs.execdir@interbaun.com[/email]. e-mail

    Appreciate the help

    Tom H

    in reply to: Hypothetical aircraft to break the highspeed record #1313823
    Tom H
    Participant

    Good Morning

    To reply to a few comments

    I would use the stock late model Spitfire wing not the Spiteful, as I have read tighter turning and still ahigh top speed, but stable and forgiving.

    You would also pick up corner speed over the competion, might be a little slower than optimium on the straight but would make it up in the corners.

    While aerodynamic improvement would be needed on the underwing rads I don’t think they are as big a concern as many do.

    Yes mid 400’s was the best of the 40’s but remember they were not drawing the power that is being made today and they carried the weight of the radios and military equipment of the day.

    Using todays engine technology the Reno birds are pushing 2 to 3 time the power…adding some of the newest performance tech from the auto world would boost that further.

    Removing the non structural weight also gives a major gain.

    The Learstang, from a n old magazine, was over weight and comapritively under powered…then they ran out of money.

    The real answer of course for the unlimited is a fresh sheet of paper and use of automotive endurance racing systems.

    I would never really consider cutting up a real warbird for Reno

    Tom H

    in reply to: Hypothetical aircraft to break the highspeed record #1314829
    Tom H
    Participant

    Morning

    Interested topic…

    I’ve followed Reno on and off for years always with the dream of someday flying in it. Well a little to old and fat for that now.

    The unlimited aircraft have pretty much reached their max using WW2 airframes…they have been strtched, cut, hacked and adapted to death and most of the insiders feel that it is time to step into a new direction to remain cutting edge.

    Tsunami was a Mustang that really pushed the limits with an all new wing design and a radically modified fuselage…there simply wasn’t much Mustang left. Unfortunately it was lost in a pre race accident.

    Others have adapted Lear Jet wings (and others), punched out griffons, Sea Furies have also been re-engined to death, clipped hacked and cut.

    so your question is a tough one…but here is a stab

    I would start with a very late style Griffon Spitfire, already kow they can be competitive as one came 3rd at Clevland in “49”.

    Using modern engine tech and fuels on the Griffon should gain the power to be more than competitive.

    A massive clean up on the overall airframe would be in order as would removing all possible non structural weight.

    Then using a progressive testing schedule wing area could be reduced to reach the target speeds ( as well as other mods)

    Just my 2 bits

    Tom H

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