Nice work there Tom – I once tried to get permission from the UK authorities to move a Meteor NF12 fuselage in a similar fashion!;)
Declined due to the lack of an independently functioning braking system on the aircraft!! 🙁
You asked permission? Might have to do that next time (lol)
All vehicles and systems involved were properly insured, registered and equipped for the job (tow vehicle commercially operated) and after checking the traffic act we did it. Within the bounds of our laws.
Tom
Tom – There is no ‘Beech’ in that HS125 ! That was built well before Beech they got their mits on it! Has in been in North America all its life?
Data tag calls it a Beech Hawker 125-600 and yes it shows a North America only life according to the logs we have.
Thanks Tom
David
The Beech Hawker 125-600 is, the Beech 18 is on loan and will be departing shortly.
The 125 is a donation, a complete aircraft that has missed virtually every calendar inspection and now is simply too expensive to return to service. Short of a polish (due this summer) it is on display and open during the summers.
The Beech 18 was to be a donation and a return to airworthy project, negotiations have not come together and it will be leaving.
Thanks Tom
Thanks everyone!
David
Most of the examples at Markham are pretty tough, we took a look at them on the ground, and save for (1) that is beautiful and not for sale the rest would be huge projects to static.
I too would like to see Museums take a wack at them but they would be very big projects.
Good guys there though and some other cool stuff.
Tom
Thanks
We really look forward to getting this one on public display fast and can hardly wait to see the faces of the kids that get in the cockpit!
Would really like to find the pilots, especially Capt H Riedel of the Luftwaffe, any leads would be appreciated.
Tom
In understand where your coming from with the Avian -on a bigger scale a Junkers JL-6 replica constructed in a similar fashion to the two F.13 replicas in Germany would fill a massive gap in coverage of NWT avaition.
You are so right about the Junkers, we would love to but with the available room
it just won’t fit.
But it is very very high on our radar once we figure out how to continue to grow.
Tom
Thanks for the vox populi.
Cold Lake being (hmmm) “next door” I’d say a CF-18 might be appropriate but could end up being seen as just “…another 18” by the general public (which would be pretty sad but possible). I’d vote instead for the DC-3. It was – and still is – a very important bird up North. It would be a fitting tribute.
Wow
Haven’t heard the term vox populi in a very very long time. Thank you.
We are a very interactive museum and like to take input from our members and the public whenever appropriate.
Appreciate the input.
Tom
Tom -I understand where your coming from with the Avian -it just seems a shame when there is one at Fort Edmonton Park already to duplicate that!
Thanks David
I actually agree with you to a large extent but there are 2 problems.
1) Our mandate is quite tight being Edmonton’s aviation history, as such we present the history much like chapters in a book.
Right now with the Avian not in the collection it’s like a book missing a chapter and it leaves a gap in the history that we are mandated to present.
(Imagine that an aviation museum sticking to it’s mandate lol)
2) The representation at Fort Edmonton Park is not open for over 1/2 the year and even when open not always available for view.
Our facility is open 362 days a year so it is important as part of our mission to make our history available to both Edmontonians and visitors year round.
Because of the impending closure of our airport we have actually had to tighten our mandate as it used to be Edmonton and Northern Alberta as primary. But the limitations being imposed because of the airport issue has (for the moment) required us to tighten our mandate a little more.
Sticking to the mandate sometimes breaks my heart as we have had to turn down and refer aircraft to other museums that I would dearly have loved to have, but didn’t fit the mandate.
Long term (5-10 years) we will be making changes to operations that will allow us to broaden our mandate back to Edmonton, Northern Alberta, Alberta and Canada. But for now we will stick with the Edmonton mandate and do our best to present that history better than anyone else.
Thanks Again
Tom
Ok – well instead of the Avian on the list -I would substitute a Fleet Finch as an original machine is probably the same cost as building an accurate replica. It also has an association with Edmonton.
As for external -a DC-3 is always going to win that one!
Appreciate the input again David
The Fleet Finch was on our longer acquisition list, but with the airport closing and room restrictions we had to drop it….for now.
The Avian has a huge historic provenance here and is considered a must have.
http://www.edmontonjournal.com/January+1929+Daring+mercy+flight+brings+vaccine+Fort+Vermilion/7762927/story.html
http://www.wopmay.com/adventures/mercyflight.htm
Thanks again
Tom
I will take a guess on the Freighter being the Pidgeon Lake example. As of the list -I would choose a different route and not dupliate something that is already being done ! Therefore ex RCAF C-119!
Appreciate the input David
But we have have to stick within our mandate, which is why we have an acquisition list.
the other problem is that after the arrival of the Bristol Freighter we just won’t have the physical capacity to house a C-119.
You are right though, as of now there are no C-119s on display in Canada and it is a huge void….just one our museum can’t fix.
Thanks Tom
Just out of interest – what is the origin of your Bristol Freighter? Sadly we no longer have any in the UK but it’s good to hear several are well looked after in Canada (as well of course as those elsewhere such as New Zealand).
Tim
Thanks for the response.
I’m sorry but we have been asked not to reveal details on the freighter other than it is a damaged aircraft and somewhat incomplete.
We will be able to release it’s history after it arrives.
Again sorry but the source of the aircraft has requested this of us and we must respect their request.
Tom
Starfighter update….
Thought I would let everyone know its on the boat!
After over (1) year of fighting paperwork across (2) continents and (3) countries!
(Don’t now if I every want to do this again…then again depends on the aircraft)
Due to arrive Edmonton March 26th.
On arrival, (3) containers, it will be unloaded and immediately go out for
paint stripping.
The final markings to be determined but the current front runner is 104651.
Once we have a realistic completion date we will be setting a roll out date
and Celebration and possibly a meet and greet for all that were involved
with F-104. Air Crew, Ground Crew and North West Industries personnel.
Keep you posted
Thanks again to the Hamilton family, Airspray and all those that made this project happen!
What was??
has something happened to the collection or Al?
The collection and Al are there, it is simply not operating as a museum (in the conventional sense anyway).
Tom
Out of interest Tom are you keeping a close eye on what was the Canadian Air -Land and Sea ‘museum’ at Markham ?
I try to keep an eye on what they have and are doing but I can’t say a close eye (They are about 3500 km from us +/-). Spoke to Al from there not long ago re: CF-5 and I am aware of the damaged Vamp they have as well.
Was there about 18months ago looking at the parts of 104s he has there.
Tom H
To add to my above post…
We have had a Norseman (on floats) on outdoor display mounted to a pylon for about 10years now.
Our experience with the finishing, sealing and UV protection on this aircraft is what make me confident that we can accomplish the same with a Vamp.
The Norseman shows no sigh of deterioration internally or externally, the wood is holding up very well and the exterior finish is as well. The level of maintenance is key to keeping ahead though and in spite of no repairs being required it shows constant inspections will be needed.
Tom