These two do not really belong here
I think these two beauties had a much better fate than the other posted here, since they have led to the Hunter, the best selling British jet fighter ever, and the most beautiful.
Always loved the lines of these two Hawkers…
P.1052
P.1081
Which axial-flow fighter was this?;)
no go
Those doors are a great way to stall the compressor. You will get an un-even flow thru the compressor, since at any instant some sectors are blocked. It simply will not work. It is difficult enough to have a smooth flow at all flight conditions, engine controls took decades to solve all the problems, the last thing you want is to disrupt the flow of high pressure air.
I think people here are too polite, I say there is no advantage in this idea, engines already operate at presures that were impossible in the past and this idea will not improve the jet engine, and will not work.
Perhaps you should look at pulse detonation engines.
This is not a MIg-27
It is a MIG-23BN, with my chaff & flares installation near the air brakes.
I wonder if it is still flying.
Any reccent pics of Ethioppean Mig 21 & 23?
Thanks for the wonderful info on the Angolan and Mozambiquan Noratlases! Well, well, guess I’ll just have to build one of those…
Attached find a purportedly new Ethiopian roundel. See also the profile of an Su-27 with it on the tail, plus a photo of a MiG-27 featuring it on the fuselage. New air force roundel, some other sort of Ethiopian roundel, or unit/squadron badge? I have seen Ethiopian aircraft and helicopters with a number of different roundels; would appreciate any feedback. Thanks.
The Israeli Me-109 were bought from Checoslovakia, so I believe they were “real” Me 109 and not Bouchons
Observers book of aircraft
This small book was given to me as a present sometime in the early 60s, and certainly was one of the main influences on me going into aviation.
at the time anything about aviation was hard to find in Israel, and his books were a great source of knowledge for me.
The man has a created a great memorial to himself in the body of work he has written.
Hi Swedishchat
Do tou have any more pics of Ethiopian Mig 23 or 21? Please post if you do.
Thanks
I just had to put it here-it is relevant!
What happens when a fly falls into a coffee cup?
The Italian – throws the cup, breaks it, and walks away in a fit of rage.
The German – carefully washes the cup, sterilizes it and makes a new cup of coffee.
The Frenchman – takes out the fly, and drinks the coffee.
The Chinese – eats the fly and throws away the coffee.
The Russian – Drinks the coffee with the fly, since it was extra with no charge.
The Israeli – sells the coffee to the Frenchman, the fly to the Chinese, drinks tea and uses the extra money to invent a device that prevents flies from falling into coffee.
The Palestinian – blames the Israeli for the fly falling in his coffee, protests the act of aggression to the UN, takes a loan from the European Union to buy a new cup of coffee, uses the money to purchase explosives and then blows up the coffee house where the Italian, the Frenchman, the Chinese, the German and the Russian are all trying to explain to the Israeli that he should give away his cup of tea to the Palestinian.
I just had to put it here-it is relevant!
What happens when a fly falls into a coffee cup?
The Italian – throws the cup, breaks it, and walks away in a fit of rage.
The German – carefully washes the cup, sterilizes it and makes a new cup of coffee.
The Frenchman – takes out the fly, and drinks the coffee.
The Chinese – eats the fly and throws away the coffee.
The Russian – Drinks the coffee with the fly, since it was extra with no charge.
The Israeli – sells the coffee to the Frenchman, the fly to the Chinese, drinks tea and uses the extra money to invent a device that prevents flies from falling into coffee.
The Palestinian – blames the Israeli for the fly falling in his coffee, protests the act of aggression to the UN, takes a loan from the European Union to buy a new cup of coffee, uses the money to purchase explosives and then blows up the coffee house where the Italian, the Frenchman, the Chinese, the German and the Russian are all trying to explain to the Israeli that he should give away his cup of tea to the Palestinian.
Egypt is clever enough not to relief Israel from the burden of Gaza and to have the related problems from that till 1967. Jordan did follow the Egyptian example.
Israel is just feeling the impact from the loss of Rabin.
I don’t see serious Israeli preperations for a strike on Iran. 😉
You missed my point. I understand Egypt well. I am asking why the West does not put pressure on the Egyptians to give Gaza a connection to the world, while stopping arms smuggle. They can do it bu they don’t want to as long as no one is demanding it.
Egypt is clever enough not to relief Israel from the burden of Gaza and to have the related problems from that till 1967. Jordan did follow the Egyptian example.
Israel is just feeling the impact from the loss of Rabin.
I don’t see serious Israeli preperations for a strike on Iran. 😉
You missed my point. I understand Egypt well. I am asking why the West does not put pressure on the Egyptians to give Gaza a connection to the world, while stopping arms smuggle. They can do it bu they don’t want to as long as no one is demanding it.
Your answer is not acceptable. I find nothing simila between Netanyahu and Ahmejinedad.
What kind of similarity is it to say “they are both conservative”??? One is trying to protect his country and the other is threatening to destroy a country far away. That is the issue!
And about Gaza – let me remind you – Israel is no longer in Gaza!. Let them take care of themselves, or make Egypt support them. Why do you demand that from Israel and not from Egypt? Come on – where is the famous Arab Brotherhood, which is the only reason the Arabs are fighting Israel? LET THE ARABS TAKE CARE OF THEIR OWN FOR ONCE!!!
Your answer is not acceptable. I find nothing simila between Netanyahu and Ahmejinedad.
What kind of similarity is it to say “they are both conservative”??? One is trying to protect his country and the other is threatening to destroy a country far away. That is the issue!
And about Gaza – let me remind you – Israel is no longer in Gaza!. Let them take care of themselves, or make Egypt support them. Why do you demand that from Israel and not from Egypt? Come on – where is the famous Arab Brotherhood, which is the only reason the Arabs are fighting Israel? LET THE ARABS TAKE CARE OF THEIR OWN FOR ONCE!!!
Once upon a time (1917) there was an empire – the Ottoman empire. it rruled over the middle east. There were no Syrians, no Jordanians, no Iraqies, no Labanese and no Saudies then. There were certainly no “palstinians”. Everyone was a loyal (or not) Ottoman subject, including the the Jes who lived in the middle east.
Then there was a war. A BIG one. and the empire fell to the hands of the vicyors – England and France. And to pay those who helped them they have created new states – Syria, Lebanon, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, and they put their saudi allies as kings there – Faisal and Abdalla (the fist one) and Saud. ( so all the new Arab states are imperialist creations, and all their rulers were foreign dictators put on the throne by the British).
But the Jews got only a promise that one day they too will have one tiny state in their ancient homeland. But no palestinian state was created, and no Arab king demanded it, for there was no “palestinian” nation. In fact, the land west of the Jordan was a wasteland, as seen by Mark Twain in his visit in the late 19th century.
The only ones who stuck with this land, for they had no other, and anyway they were industious and hard working, were the Jews. They have turned the wasteland into a desireable property (Singapore anyone?) and suddenly every poor Arab from the neighbourhood wanted to come and get work and prosper too, which was OK by the Jews. It is still OK now. But the Arabs did not like to share. The whole middle east was theirs, but it was not enough. They just had to own the last grain of sand (like Sadat in Sinai). That is why they refused the UN resolution, which was actually terrible for the Jews. It Is the same today. The problem did not start in 1967 and not even in 1948, so trying to roll back history (and borders) will not help.
And look also at what happened to Lebanon – once “Switzerland of the middle east’ where Muslims and Christians leaved peacefully togather – all ruind now, mainly thanks to Arafat and his “Palestinians” but also thank to Syria, who considees Labanon as part of its land. Why? they were both created at the same time by the same European winners of WW2.
Israel will not become a second Lebanon.
Once upon a time (1917) there was an empire – the Ottoman empire. it rruled over the middle east. There were no Syrians, no Jordanians, no Iraqies, no Labanese and no Saudies then. There were certainly no “palstinians”. Everyone was a loyal (or not) Ottoman subject, including the the Jes who lived in the middle east.
Then there was a war. A BIG one. and the empire fell to the hands of the vicyors – England and France. And to pay those who helped them they have created new states – Syria, Lebanon, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, and they put their saudi allies as kings there – Faisal and Abdalla (the fist one) and Saud. ( so all the new Arab states are imperialist creations, and all their rulers were foreign dictators put on the throne by the British).
But the Jews got only a promise that one day they too will have one tiny state in their ancient homeland. But no palestinian state was created, and no Arab king demanded it, for there was no “palestinian” nation. In fact, the land west of the Jordan was a wasteland, as seen by Mark Twain in his visit in the late 19th century.
The only ones who stuck with this land, for they had no other, and anyway they were industious and hard working, were the Jews. They have turned the wasteland into a desireable property (Singapore anyone?) and suddenly every poor Arab from the neighbourhood wanted to come and get work and prosper too, which was OK by the Jews. It is still OK now. But the Arabs did not like to share. The whole middle east was theirs, but it was not enough. They just had to own the last grain of sand (like Sadat in Sinai). That is why they refused the UN resolution, which was actually terrible for the Jews. It Is the same today. The problem did not start in 1967 and not even in 1948, so trying to roll back history (and borders) will not help.
And look also at what happened to Lebanon – once “Switzerland of the middle east’ where Muslims and Christians leaved peacefully togather – all ruind now, mainly thanks to Arafat and his “Palestinians” but also thank to Syria, who considees Labanon as part of its land. Why? they were both created at the same time by the same European winners of WW2.
Israel will not become a second Lebanon.
We all know who the bad guys are, and we all know who will win in this melee.
God Speed Israel.
THANKS MAN!!!