its hard for me to find full specs for the CP-140, does it have any ELINT or COMINT capabilities? whats going to be part of the CP-140 AIMP (aurora incremental modernization project)?
guys its the F-22A, the designation of “F/A-22” only existed in the year before it entered USAF service. No one in the USAF refers to it as “F/A-22”
look it up
Our friends at Aviation Week are reporting that AFSOC will be building a low cost “proven technology” C-127J gunship “Lite”.
Also, It looks like the U.S. military will be buying some PC-12s for “low profile” special ops airlift missions plus some as comm relay platforms.
not a bad idea for the baby herc’s, quicker response, can stay on station longer… that will be interesting to see
Do Canadian 412s have self sealing fuel bladders? Most 412s are non-combatant utility helos. Putting them in the line of fire could be bad.
I spoke to my Griffon SME and he infact told me our Griffs are equipped with self-sealing bladder fuel tanks. He went on to add that they are to enhance ‘crashworthiness’ and was unsure as to what the effect would be regarding bullets going through the tank.
He’s joking….:cool:
ooooh ok good… i was wonderin’ there for a minute lol
Yes , and KP claims that this would be in service and active in wars before the end of august 🙂
Also ,the reaction time for these lasers would have to be less then 6 seconds because conventional aircrafts (not equiped with missile dogding laser suites) can allready shoot down missiles in 6 seconds ” No matter which missile “
really? i didn’t know that at all…
let me try and understand this, if lets say a pair of F-22s are flying over head protection for say some F-15Es and one of those F-15Es gets engaged by a SAM or even a AAM, can a F-22 lock on to that missile, and then destroy it with an AMRAAM or AIM-9X?
Do Canadian 412s have self sealing fuel bladders? Most 412s are non-combatant utility helos. Putting them in the line of fire could be bad.
Im going to look into that, I know our 412s are basically civie choppers with green paint on ’em… good question!
Hmm… Not exactly what I had in mind (being that this is an airborne weapons thread).
I’ve read in random articles this laser tech could be applied to aircraft to completely replace chaff and flare defensvie suites. the laser would just zap the incoming missile out of the sky.
I know little of CAF military operations, but deploying a Bell 412 (hardly a new or high tech aircraft) seems rather straightforward.
Why the delay?
The tailboom strakes have been out for years and fitted to civil Hueys of all types….
I believe the delay is getting our Chinook order and then having them sent over to Afghanistan… The Griffons are going to act as the Chinook escorts, so there would be no point in sending the Griffs over at this point if their is no Chinooks yet…
We ordered something like 13 CH-47″F” models, but they aren’t coming until the war is basically over in 2011, so Canada has just purchased 6 used CH-47″D” models from the U.S. Army and they are coming much sooner…
A laser-based anti-missile defence system would be an excellent idea if you could make it good enough to track and lethal enough to kill an incoming SAM or AAM.
Airport Defense: Lasers, Microwaves
Cheap, low-tech, easy-to-use, and utterly lethal, shoulder-fired missiles have become a terrorist weapon of choice, killing more than 640 people in 35 attacks on civilian jets. And so far, countermeasures have proven too finicky and too expensive to widely deploy. So the Department of Homeland Security is trying out instead a pair of new defenses, seemingly straight of science fiction: laser guns and microwave blasters.
The Department will spend $4.1 million to test out Raytheon’s “Vigilant Eagle” system, which relies a series of microwave pulses to throw off a missile’s guidance package. A series of passive infrared trackers, installed around an airport, would look out for missile exhaust. When these sensors detect a launch, data about the missile’s trajectory is sent to a control center, which in turn tells a billboard-size microwave array where to blast.
How exactly this is done without disrupting a plane’s avionics system has never been fully explained to me. Which may be why DHS is also sinking nearly $2 million into a study of Northrop Grumman’s laser-based, “SkyGuard” defense, as well.
The system is a modification of the company’s Tactical High Energy Laser, which successfully blasted dozens of Katyusha rockets and mortars out of the air during military testing. The laser, powered by vats of toxic chemicals, was considered too cumbersome for battlefield use. A permanent set-up an airport might be a different story, however.
DHS has spent nearly four years and $239 million to adapt the military’s series of countermeasures to civilian jets. But most commercial carriers have been unwilling to pay for the systems, which could cost $50 billion over ten years to install and maintain. So far, Fedex is the only big flier to invest heavily in the defenses, agreeing to outfit 11 of its planes with the countermeasures.
Ground-based systems — even ones based on ray guns — might prove more palatable to the airline industry. Sure, the technology is less proven than the jet-based defenses. But eventually, the microwave and laser blasters could prove “more reliable,” Daniel Goure, vice president of the Lexington Institute, tells Bloomberg News. “It is easier to be on the ground where you can have an infinite power supply. Aircraft are only vulnerable below a certain altitude, when they are taking off and landing. For most airports you can place them on towers where you can cover landing and takeoff routes.”
Raytheon and Northrop have 18 months to prove their futuristic systems are ready to handle the job.
you can find that article here: http://www.defensetech.org/archives/cat_lasers_and_ray_guns.html
airborne weapons? im not totally sure what you mean… but a cool peice of tech is the ATL (advanced tactical laser) its based off the ABL program, this weapon is being tested on a NC-130H…
I believe India did some test with RAM on either a MiG-21 or a Jaguar. Russia has RAM, they’ve applied it to the intakes of the Tu-160 for one example. That’s why operational BLACKJACKs have black colored intakes and also why they’re covered when an operational jet is on public display. With around 2.4 zillion people living there, it’d probably be retarded to assume that China HASN’T figured RAM out, although I can’t think of any published references to Chinese RAM off the top of my head. Germany, the Eurofighter consortium, and France have all experimented with it in the past or applied it operationally: Germany probably can claim credit for inventing the stuff for the Horten bombers in WWII, and both the Eurofighter consortium and France have employed it on the EF-2000 and Rafale.
Thank you, with that being said, how come Russia, India or China doesn’t have a totally radar invisible or near-invisible aircraft like those of the U.S.? Why only apply RAM to the inlets when you could make a Russian version of the F-117 or something like that? Is their RAM that of a lesser quality? Is it funding?
im sorry, im sure this question has been asked time and time again and probably been answered in this thread, but i have limited time and didn’t read all 15 pages…
i understand that the PAK-FA will incoroporate stealth design features, but do any countries actually posess radar absorbing materials other than the united states?
Anyone I.D. this one?
thats a fake vid, 110% CGI bro…
According to Ben Rich, the mysterious ‘Aurora’ was the skunk work’s failed ATB design that led to the B-2
that makes more sense… side not, i just read this aircraft comes out of skunk works too