RpRThe F106 was pretty much on par with the F4 for size (wingspan was shorter). However it wasnt a triangle shape all the way to the rear. Only the cockpit and intake was triangular. The rest of the fuselage had area ruling waist and was pretty much circular , only the bottom was flat.
The Six was seven feet longer than the F-4, wingspan was identical.
The F-4 had better acceleration due to extra thrust but the Six had far, far more endurance which was shown when they went against each other in air combat exercises.
The Six could also cruise at a much higher speed than the F-4.
The Divided windshield on the six could endure far higher speeds than any glass front.
They used to say about the Deuce, it has a Mach 3 windscreen, Mach 2 air frame and a Mach 1 engine.
If you read the Six site, one ground crew member relates how a Six pilot came in once with the paint of all leading edges burnt and peeled off, the windshield was not affected.
He said the pilot just walked away and no one asked questions.
RpRMagnificent Seven
Different from the original and very good.
RpRI know people would love to see what an F119 would do in a Delta Dagger body, but realistically your aircraft wasn’t even built for the speeds attained by the F-15. Removing the vertical tail and canards from F-106X doesn’t address the thermal issues.
And why wouldn’t something as small as the F-106X be sufficiently overpowered by an F100-229? The most fuel thirsty leg of the F-106 mission was the climb, which the F100 would have been a huge improvement over J75.
Small, hmmm, the six was 70 feet long, the Thud was only 64 feet long.
As far as speed, if you read some of side stories involving the Six from the site dedicated to it, it was flown at speeds up to Mach 2.7 and 70,000 feet. Not dash or zoom but flown in steady state.
Now for a Gripen craft to to use the F119 it would have to gain a lot of size.
RpRThe F-106 had a maximum load factor of 6g (example at 30,000 ft 6g only attainable between 380-410 knots), that is not even close to any fourth gen or many third gen fighters. The range numbers on wiki and on the front page of the F-106 site are total range, not combat radius. Looking at the flight manual, it had a flight radius of around 625nmi on internal fuel, and around 700-750nmi with to 360 gallon tanks (retained) or 900 mmi dropped.This was in a optimal climb cruise profile. In actual combat radius, the USAF sheet lists 417nmi with internal fuel for an area intercept, and 725nmi with external tanks http://www.f-106deltadart.com/manuals/Tech_Performance_Data.pdf. Not exactly amazing range when you consider that modern AtA combat radius figures include combat time.
There is no reason to think that the range would be better with the F119, nor would the maneuverability approach that of the Gripen. The Atlas Cheetah would be similar in layout to an F-106 with canards. It was more maneuverable than the Mirage III or Nesher it was derived from, but no world beater. Making the Delta configuration efficient and agile took the evolution of FBW systems and negative stability.
I have spoken online with pilots from the F-106 site, one sent me his uniform patches, and they have said they were told that 8 g were the official line they were told not to exceed but that in during combat exercises that meant nothing, they pushed them as hard as need be.
One pilot did retire his aircraft, as far as he knows, as he never saw it fly again, when it went into a dive that he recovered from way less than a thousand feet from the ground.
He said he thought it was the end , as did a another who saw it but by the grace of God it leveled off.
The wings were canted up and the entire airframe out of square. Last time he saw it it was still parked in the out of service area.
They also have said the numbers from Wiki and such sites are near meaningless for range, speed etc. Those are the official numbers that were printed up when the aircraft was approved in the fifties and mean nothing as far as actual performance.
One pilot, due to rank and tenure exceded allowed fairy range and landed with more than minimum fuel tank levels. He said if you pushed the aircraft and landed with less than official minimum fuei, at least for junior pilots, there was hell to pay.
The officer he reported to checked, fumed and dropped the subject.
Another said it would fly for three hours on internal fuel and four with tanks.
Yet another pilot said the fastest he ever saw was little over Mach 2.2 during an official flight maneuver at which point he had to turn which bled off speed.
The F-106x would have used the J58 so the F119 would have been over a ton lighter with the performance of the J58.
The problem with a delta, though highly maneuveable, it bled off speed. One pilot said that the six could have used a few thousand more pounds thrust to fix the acceleration from a tight turn.
Here is what one pilot wrote:
Flew the 106 at Duluth, the 11th FIS, (after checkout at Tyndall) for two and 1/2 years, 1964, 65 and 66. The original Red Bulls. The squadron moved in the late 60’s or early 70’s and became the 87th. It flew as great as it looked. Went to Tyndall and some of us got fitted in pressure suits that they said were similar to the ones used in the Gemini program. Had a little cooler box and all. We ran on U-2’s at 65,000 feet. We were at 60,000. Accelerate to 1.8 mach at about 37,000, then climb at 1.8. The missle firing range at that altitude was 8 miles. And we were not to fly past the U-2. They feared the shock wave from the 106 would flame them out, and might have done some structural damage. Not sure. We also ran quartering head on passes on one of our guys in a Six. He was at 65,000. What a closure rate. 2500 knots or so. And the MA-1 fire control system worked great.
RpRGap, Narrowing: Russia, China to Challenge West’s Air Supremacy
In the real world war scenario, China maybe, Russia had a finacial gap, not an abiltity to go to war heads-up gap.
RpR
Are the Tu-160 fitted to be able to carry conventional bombs?
Having watched the Tu-22 bomb runs in Syria, one Tu-160 could carry enough 250 or 500 k bombs to equal ten of those strikes and turn the area bombed into a craters of the moom look a like.
RpRA threat obviously. An empty one too.
So his suggestion is to let the terrorists go free, so they then can harm Russia and continue to harm Syria, or kill them off and somehow face terror? Russia has faced Islamic terror for decades, if not for a century or more. Kirby not only sounded like a complete idiot but also gives the impression that they control the terrorist groups. Which then proves the tinfoil hat conspirators correct that US is a terrorist sponsoring nation (this was obvious during the Soviet Afghan war though).
A good response is go ahead and try, and continue to bomb US assets (terrorists and personnel if embedded with terrorists) in Syria.
This :
Unless Russia “stops the violence” in Syria, extremists would “exploit the vacuum” to attack Russian interests and even cities, the US State Department has said.
“Extremist groups will continue to exploit the vacuums that are there in Syria to expand their operations, which could include attacks against Russian interests, perhaps even Russian cities. Russia will continue to send troops home in body bags, and will continue to lose resources, perhaps even aircraft,” John Kirby, the State Department’s spokesperson, told reporters at Wednesday’s press briefing.
If the war continues “more Russian lives will be lost, more Russian aircraft will be shot down,” Kirby said.
Early on Wednesday, US Secretary of State John Kerry threatened to end all cooperation between the United States and Russia to stop Syria’s civil war, unless Moscow and Damascus ended the current attack on East Aleppo.
“We are working through steps that we might have to take to begin to suspend our engagement with Russia on Syria. We haven’t taken those steps yet,” said Kirby. “The message to the [Russian] Foreign Minister today was that we are perfectly willing and able to move forward on those steps that would end with the suspension of US-Russia bi-lateral engagement in Syria.”
Is just political hot air bs.
Russia could send in a Vietnam era style of heavy bomber to level an area to totally wipe out any terrorists ther and you would get more sputtering brew-ha-ha and nothing more, ESPECIALLY with an election coming.
John Kerry is the U.S. equivalent of the public relations dude Sadam had.
RpRHeh. No. There is not.
Russia has been and always will be a clear step above China in Aviation. Any suggestion otherwise is just pure folly.
There is a reason why China purchased a Russian designed aircraft carrier. There is a reason why the J 20 is a copy of the Mig 1.44. Yet people want to use this thread to mock Russian aviation and claim that China is ahead of Russia in aviation.
As a soldier in a movie once said: That’s the fact Jack!
RpRI’m sorry that the world doesn’t conform to your simplistic 19th century view of things (tell me, are you into phrenology too?)
The strange thing is that, as ‘conservatives’ are forever, and inexplicably, reminding us in the manner of a child stumbling upon an unexpected object, racism exists in other cultures as well. Yet your simplistic claim that there are only three races would erase the great majority of this racism and would indeed leave Caucasians as the undisputed masters of that ignoble realm, when the reality is altogether more complicated.
Conservatives are a funny lot. Their worldview is (supposedly) all about tradition and preserving what is worthy about the past, yet most conservatism relies upon a studied ignorance, distortion or denial of that very history.
Ignorance is bliss and your ignorance of the English language makes you a very happy person with a poor command of words.
Now go find a dictionary look up the word bigotry and try to make your rhetoric at least resemble something that is intelligent.:applause:
RpRRacism isn’t about skin colour, never has been. Look at the Irish, who used to be discriminated against in the United States as well as here (Australia) and in England. Same with southern Europeans. In all cases racism is about creating hierarchies amongst peoples. To be “white” in the Anglo-American context doesn’t mean to have white skin (not least of all because nobody has white skin) but rather it means to be part of a group of people that considers itself superior to all others. The definition of who is and isn’t allowed to be white changes over time — again, see the Irish and southern Europeans — and other societies have their own forms of racism: their own hierarchies in which the politically dominant group places itself, inevitably, at the top. Skin colour is often a convenient marker by which the inferior other is identified and discriminated against, but is not essential to racism.
Racism
noun
noun: racism
the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races.
You and a probably the whole political pile of humam debris in Washington should really read your dictionaries.
Thre are only three races, period.
The incoherent babbling of the word racism has pretty much made the word meaningless and pointless.
RpRYes, that’s the solution; build a big wall around the USA and throw out any racial group that has shot anybody…
…so, out go the African-Americans, the Hispanics, the Arabs and the Native-Americans (Custer’s Last Stand)…
…only white people would be left…..because they’ve never shot anybody! :rolleyes:
And your defining line of white is what?
You cannot say Caucasian, so where do YOU draw the geographical or political lines.
A Latino is not white only to bigoted persons OR Latinos who deny their physical appearence.
RpRSomebody corrected the Trump/Skittles thingy.
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Someone else took a different approach to the conundrum.
LOL, so you are using make believe desperation, talking points, which is all the Democrats have to prove what?
Their imagination is as skewed as their party line?
She denies words that she has spoken on tape, and you think Trump is bad, he is a civilian she is suppposed to be a veteran politician; NO WAIT, she lies continually, so she IS A veteran politician.
Of course seem to have not seen, she now denies she blamed the Libyan attack on a video tape even though there are many where she says just that, but then she is your gal.
You are trying so hard here with nothing but Democrat out of context talking points to back up your bias, but keep on truckin, it is all you can do.
God help us but this might be our presidentette
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RpRFrightening isn’t it.
Not when you consider the lying old broad is the alternative.
RpRPowell on Clinton:
Fuming about being tied to Clinton’s emails
Powell’s rancor is not reserved solely for Trump. And Clinton’s decision to cite his use of private email as secretary of state to justify her private email server has clearly proven a sore spot — both in these emails and in previous Powell comments.
“I have told Hilleary’s [sic] minions repeatedly that they are making a mistake trying to drag me in, yet they still try,” he wrote in May to former top Bill Clinton adviser Vernon Jordan. “The media isn’t fooled and she is getting crucified. The differences are profound and they know it.”
‘Everything [Clinton] touches she kind of screws up with hubris’
In August 2015, Powell said to Democratic donor Jeffrey Leeds that Clinton’s email problems show how liable she is to create problems for herself — and to cause problems for others’ use of official email.
“They are going to dick up the legitimate and necessary use of emails with friggin’ record rules,” he wrote. “I saw email more like a telephone than a cable machine. … Everything HRC touches she kind of screws up with hubris.”
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Here is what happens when a Liberal treats Clinton the same way they treat Trump OR treat Trump the same way they treat Clinton.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/jimmy-fallon-trump-interview_us_57e0279ee4b0071a6e08aa0f
RpRBut why are ‘BB’ guns made to look that realistic?
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Increased sales.
Some BB guns that could actually be called lethal, do not resemble any other gun.
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