Is ‘no’ the answer you are looking for? It depends where the statistic is gathered; from the gun-owner or from the person who stole it.

Are you saying that ‘only’ these 100,000 stolen firearms represent those legally-owned firearms that are reported to the police?

Now I will admit there might be some criminals that are so incredibly stupid they will report an illegal item being stolen (this has happened with drugs) the number would be, if it happened, so small as that the percentage would have a loooot of zeros in it.

Unless the criminal wanted really, really badly, to spend some time in the crow-bar motel, it does not happen.
If one were to actually report a stolen illegal firearm, that is reporting committing a felony.

So in reality only legal guns are reported stolen.
One does not get into the system’s numbers without being reported, period.

Way back in this thread you posted a link to a site listing many facts to support gun-ownership; I cannot remember the exact figure (or be bothered to find the post now) but if I remember the figure was that 70% of guns used in homicides were ‘stolen’.

That begs the question: stolen from whom? Stolen from legal gun-owners?

Just think about your question for a moment.

Let’s see, a person has an illegally owned firearm, and if it is stolen, it is going to be reported to the police?

The straw-man argument that wanting to do something about shooting-sprees in schools is somehow going to infringe the rights of sportsmen deer-hunting is mild in comparison.

So here we are nearly a year on from the Sandy Hook school shootings; have the round-ups started yet? Are the Concentration Camps filled to bursting with disarmed gun-owners? Or has the on-going struggle of the Armed-Resistance overthrown the Tyrannical Regime?

” A straw man argument occurs in the context of a debate when one side attacks a position not held by the other side, then acts as though the other side’s position has been refuted.”

I cannot believe I’ve been drawn back into this thread but, I’m sorry, that is a ridiculous argument…

…I wish the ‘pro-gun lobby’ would just have the balls to say that they like owning guns, for whatever reason, and that the odd school shooting-spree is the price they are willing to accept!

Oh please– your entire post is a simplistic job of trolling by using straw-man type rhetoric for which you, and snafu above yours, can answer with, yeah but–yeah but–yeah but– yeah but– simplistic rationalizations no matter what answer/s you are given.

And that is when the Soviet Union developed the MiG-31 Foxhound with the R-33 long range missile. On several times MiG-31 pilots had successfully locked onto an SR-71 but did not fire the R-33s to stop a major diplomatic incident. The R-33 was a Mach 4 missile.

In the book I have on Russian interceptors, a Mig-31 pilot who intercepted a Blackbird said at their closing rate he had mere seconds to make a head-on intercept, which was the only way possible.

He said if told to fire he would as there simply was zero time for any second thoughts.

He said the only time he turned on his radar, the Blackbird turned and departed at a very high speed.

One odd thing is the book gives quite complete data for Mig-31 performance but only spotty infor on the Mig-25.

with china mass producing their su-33 clone, the J-15 now
will russia get anything out of it? royalties? license fees?

Not unless China has done a one eighty on stealing others technology without paying.

The best we can hope for is a “new” status quo. there is the US factor, for they at the end of the day have the most influence over japan which any other country doesn’t have. If the US can rein Japan in a little tensions might dial down. China’s demands aren’t high — simply admission that the islands are under dispute.

The U.S. is no longer in the position to rein any anyone in, it is becoming a paper tiger quickly.

things i think are not so easyc

If this turn into a shooting match, China will find itself behind the eight ball.