Mig-21 is a 1950s Dogfighter and I guess it could outmaneuver a old Phantom II and score a kill but a F-16 could completely score a MIG kill if it was dogfighting with a MiG-21 could get shot down easily. But an upgraded Mig-21 with TVC and newer avionics, it would be certainly a big diffrence.
The Mig-21 has a lower wing loading than the F-16, while the the bis version with the temp.power boost to 21,825 lb thrust has the ability to over come, for a awhilem the speed scrubbed by the delta wing, and the -97 had the RD33.
Either of these, with a competent pilot, could take the F-16 in a gunfight and at minimum have odds no worse than 50-50.
The engine of the Mig-21 in the ‘Nam era did not spool up quickly which is why pilots were told SPEED IS LIFE, do not get into a turning fight with the Mig, use your speed and acceleration.
The later engines over came, to varying degrees, this so the fight would be more equal but just as a F-15 has the advantage in a turning fight against the F-16 so doe the Mig.
Maybe, maybe not. So what if they did? J-20 looks more dangerous 😎
Actually it reminds me of an enlarged Sea Dart with the intakes on the wrong side.
by making the information freely available who’s ‘freedom’ exactly are they ensuring???
With that I agree.
by making the information freely available who’s ‘freedom’ exactly are they ensuring???
With that I agree.
Right but even on paper as it is..it has armour for both pilot and engine + concealed weapons against .50 cal machine guns !
Only in your mind and if anyone wasted the money to build it, it might actually fly but would have just enough range to get back in line with the airstrip and land before crashing out of fuel.
Kind of like the Me 163 only instead of reaching 30,000 feet it might reach 300 ft.
This is a bit disturbing. I think it also illustrates the skewed thinking of some sections of the gun community, in that Mr Wilson seems to be saying “Yes innocent people may get killed but that’s not so important as the rest of us being “Free”to do whatever we feel like.
No it is not disturbing at all.
Freedom is what hundreds of thousands of U.S. citizens have died for.
Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759
This is a bit disturbing. I think it also illustrates the skewed thinking of some sections of the gun community, in that Mr Wilson seems to be saying “Yes innocent people may get killed but that’s not so important as the rest of us being “Free”to do whatever we feel like.
No it is not disturbing at all.
Freedom is what hundreds of thousands of U.S. citizens have died for.
Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759
Methinks Finnish Air Force may also in the future operate jets ( of this size ) despite the 10 fold oil prices and less money for the military to operate. We definitely cannot afford current size 5th gen fighters.
New inventions are already emerging to make this happen; http://www.darpa.mil/Our_Work/MTO/Programs/Micro-Technology_for_Positioning,_Navigation_and_Timing_%28Micro-PNT%29.aspx
No you don’t you know your paper plane will not work and are just trolling to see how long you can drag it along.
It got a better engine but the USN was still not interested…
Insider politics was heavily involved in choices.
This so called thread should be removed. I don’t know why but no reason for the title. But anyway let’s get started.
We all know the MIG-21 Fishbed is NOT stealthy at all but it’s a little lightweight aircraft that weighs 19,425 lbs. Why should a old aircraft be stealthy? There’s basically no reason to. only a 4.5 Gen or 4.75 aircraft can be stealthy due to AESA Radar, newer avionics, and stealth paint materials. Laughing myself at the thread here no way the MIG-21 could Match the F-16 in AIR TO AIR and Air To Ground and Stealth? Both aircraft don’t have stealth but Super Falcon Block 60 already has reduced RCS. But we can see who wins in WVR dogfight the F-16 or Mig-21?
In a turning gun fight a Mig-21 can still turn inside of a F-16.
The main shortcoming of the early ones in ‘Nam was the engine. The later versions with an improved engine do not suffer that problem.
It is still a point defense interceptor but in a gun fight it is at worst even with an F-16.
The problem with aviation mags is you can find far more photos, and a HELL of a lot more up-to-date, ACCURATE coverage online if you know where to look.
The printed format is still pleasant physically, but that IMO is pretty much the only thing they have going for themselves.
And it is free except for the x dollars you pay every month just to get online plus the x dollars for site that may have more than the freebies.
Of course you can print off the net for a permanent copy which only costs the x tens of dollars for paper and ink, especially color ink.
Decades ago when this was all new I met many of the person hyping the wonderful thing that would replace print because it was soooooooo cheap.
I laughed at them then and I still do but nowadays even persons at the computer stores say that saving money is not the strong point of computers.
J-20 uses DSI. In fact, JF-17 is the first operational jet using DSI. J-20 uses lateral intakes whereas PAK-FA uses underside intakes ala Flankers. In terms of design, J-20 is most likely more advanced.
Oh please.
They copied what they hope will work.
you cannot be serious, but besides that, the AN/APG-67 is used as an option for trainers.
Yes but you don’t realize his plane also has a Klingon cloaking device!
What percentage of murders in the U.K. were criminal killing criminal?
I am not going to look up the numbers, they are probably there is you so wish, but the majority in the U.S. are criminal killing criminal.
Of course England proper, unless you count Scotsmen, does not have a country right across its border where beheadings are the latest form of criminal intimidation or thousands illegally crossing the border, either way every month.
But then neither do you have a president who is blaming the gun industry, even though his administration put several hundred into criminals hands deliberately, for their problems, or blames U.S. civilians for the actions of drug lords in that country; i.e. he is actually saying U.S. citizens are responsible for those beheadings.
So you wonder why we do not think our government not only cannot fix the problem but probably is part of the problem.
I have spoken to police officers who resent having to spend time on goblin vs goblin killings but our legal system says they must be given at least some time.
Due to the actions of one of my siblings, I am well aware of the mind set of some felony criminals, and they, for them find, laws disarming a law abiding citizen are Halloween Candy.
What percentage of murders in the U.K. were criminal killing criminal?
I am not going to look up the numbers, they are probably there is you so wish, but the majority in the U.S. are criminal killing criminal.
Of course England proper, unless you count Scotsmen, does not have a country right across its border where beheadings are the latest form of criminal intimidation or thousands illegally crossing the border, either way every month.
But then neither do you have a president who is blaming the gun industry, even though his administration put several hundred into criminals hands deliberately, for their problems, or blames U.S. civilians for the actions of drug lords in that country; i.e. he is actually saying U.S. citizens are responsible for those beheadings.
So you wonder why we do not think our government not only cannot fix the problem but probably is part of the problem.
I have spoken to police officers who resent having to spend time on goblin vs goblin killings but our legal system says they must be given at least some time.
Due to the actions of one of my siblings, I am well aware of the mind set of some felony criminals, and they, for them find, laws disarming a law abiding citizen are Halloween Candy.