Okay…I think I missed the point here…sure..Space Ship One went mach 3 and IAS was 30 mph.

Fact is that that craft only managed 540 kts..without the special tuning to go to 759 kt at high.

Troll, troll, troll your boat….

In which case the first amendment also needs rewriting to take account of computers/internet, cellphones, cameras, movies etc..

Of course the REALLY bad news for you guys in the UK is that Piers Morgan promised to *deport* himself if the new gun legislation didn’t pass… So it looks like you’re getting the imbecile back, maybe you could post a list of villages missing their idiot 🙂

Damn!

Time to do my happy dance!:cool:

RPR – instead of poor quality insults why don’t you use the power of your interlect and put a reasonable argument forward as to why its always better to do put your head in the sand rather than pass any legislation that might help in any way?
The criminals ignore laws argument is amazing – why have speed limits ? Criminals ignore them . Why have any laws on drug dealing ? Criminals ignore them as well! Should no laws ever be passed because a small percentage on the population choose to ignore them?

I give asinine troll responses such as yours as much respect as they deserve.

Your analogies are of the same intellect as your post I responded to, point made, case closed.

Addendum:
Our drug laws have been shown to be as ignorant, asinine and destructive as prohibition was eighty years ago.
So just what is your point?

Sorry, bunky but the laws had they passed would only have affected law abiding citizens, not criminals but self-righteous twits that make, spew, lies similar to yours, care nothing about truth as long as they can get on their soapbox and spew bs.
Now put your tin hat on and crawl back into your safe place.

Peak oil familiar to you ?

Might be pretty nasty already in 2025..if 3/4 available.

Scientists do not even know where oil really comes from, so you can take that chart and put in the same drawer with all the other expert’s predictions that are self-centered bs.

It works fine for politicians floating political bs on the ignorant masses but that is all it is good for.

I am putting this here so some can see how during the cold war pilots could or could not use the the burner.
Plus the conditions under which they were, while on alert, put through.

This is from a former pilot.

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For the ‘Six’ pilots, the typically rigid Cold War mission made it
almost impossible to get into any situations where they could horse’ around with their fighters. Most of the time they sat on alert, loaded for any trouble that could emerge unannounced.

ADC headquarters kept all of the various squadrons on their
toes with sudden scrambles and alerts. Col Jack Broughton,
CO of the 5th FIS relates what it was like to participate in
some of these exercises at Minot AFB, frequently in the dead
of night and in sub-zero temperatures.

‘Exercises and tactical evaluations were a recurring event for
all ADC squadrons.
They varied in length but you could usually figure on being in a practice war for about one week. If it was a TAC EVAL, which we could expect yearly, a team of ADC lull-time evaluators would descend on you and start with a day or two of inspecting every niche of the squadron as the simulated war scenario developed and the alert level went up. We also had more frequent exercises that were broader-based, involving many units, and
with less individual unit inspection. Your performance in either case was an important indicator of your readiness for the real thing, and though it had been a while since the 5th had been highly regarded, we were
changing that!
There was always a boost in adrenalin as the exercise built up to the first scramble, and some things were fun and some were not.

Scrambling in the middle of a bitter cold night wasn’t fun, but that was often the best time for the Northern Lights, and sky-dancing with them was indeed a kick!
Frequently, ADC would bring you up to a high state of alert then leave you sitting there.
One early morning, about 02.00hrs, they had our entire squadron (26 aircraft) on cockpit alert for a possible ‘flush’.
When word came through to flush (that meant inbound nuclear missiles were on the way), we got everything airborne as fast as we could; the first one to the end of the runway was the leader. I was in the number one spot closest to the runway as we lined up along the ramp in the inky black night with light blowing snow.

‘My crew chief had already helped to hoist me into the cockpit, clumsy in long john underwear, my own personal black sweater, light cotton flight suit and a huge navy blue hand-knitted wool scarf that T got from a
Red Cross lady as I boarded the USS Rushville Victory for Europe in the winter of 1945-46, and a lightweight fur-trimmed parka whose hood was folded back behind my helmet.
The only things I could move were my arms, legs and head. It was that cold! The canopy was open and I noted that at 02.23hrs the temperature was 23 degrees below zero F with a 27mph wind from the north-west blowing right down on us.
The falling snow was mixing with the stirred-up snow already on the ground, making everything from the ramp up to 100ft look like a
white pillow fight, while the ramp itself was covered with constantly swirling circles of snow dust!
‘Finally, our radios barked out ‘Flush!’ and 25 ‘Spittin Kittens’ fired up. Back in the second row one of the cold soaked 106s that had been sitting in an open-air parking shelter couldn’t accept the thousands of pounds of air
pressure on the starter mechanism and that bird was silently spraying red hydraulic fluid in all directions.
Canopies came down with minimum delay to cut off the wind and I pulled my scarf down from my face to
replace it with a frigid rubber oxygen mask.
I was first off, and by the time I pulled my gear up, I was above the
swirling snow, climbing in burner for 20,000ft, looking north-west towards the North Pole, with not a light or star in sight.
Twenty-four burner blasts later, we were all airborne in ADC record-setting time. I doubt that anyone in the local area was able to sleep through all of that!’

During its lengthy career, the Delta Dart set many speed records, the most prominent being captured by Maj
Joe Rogers in 1959.
However, another notable record occurred on 17 December 1983, well
into the Delta Dart’s tenure.
In mid-1983. Col Craig Cosgrave, commanding officer of the 177th Fighter
Interceptor Group (New Jersey ANG) was asked to provide an F-106 to participate in the Dayton, Ohio to Kitty Hawk. North Carolina speed record event. He selected Maj Moe Eldredge and Lt Jeff Thomas to fly a two-seat
F-106B (59-0149) for the record attempt.
Maj Eldredge relates: ‘The F-106 was chosen as the aircraft of choice based on its high-speed subsonic cruise capability and its excellent fuel economy at high cruising speeds.
All of this record flight would be over populated areas where supersonic speeds were not allowed.
Lt Thomas, a young talented pilot, was tasked to do the flight planning tor the event. This included figuring out the flight route, determining what altitude would be best to maximize speed based on the wind, temperature and weather conditions.
The day before the event, we flew the aircraft from our Atlantic City base over to Wright-Patterson at Dayton. The next morning, we refueled and took off heading west towards the starting line and then turned east crossing the starting line near Dayton.
We kept our speed at a constant, ending up averaging 710mph. We covered the course in 44 minutes and 45 seconds over a 461 nm course at an altitude of 35,000ft.’
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yeh,

I don’t understand why Russia would want to spend money and efforts on a subsonic flying wing after so many decades. Might as well build a stealthy Zeppelin blimp, and call it long range / extra slow response / high altitude bomber. It would cost a lot less 🙂
geeshh

The Russian Air Force is not more concerned with having a bomber capable of reaching the U.S. than the U.S. is with the vice-versa.

The U.S. closed its newest bomber base, built just to be able to launch against Russia.

The country/ies that Russia may have to launch a strike against are close by so getting there quickly is of little concern but getting there unseen is of high concern.

The ability to deliver a large tonnage of bombs for boots on the ground is far more important nowadays than turning a distant city into a smoking hole.

Pilot account (incude 4Vs6 (another Delta)):
http://users.bestweb.net/~kcoyne/f104story.htm

Over at the Six site, the Six pilots said the 104 only excelled at that William Tell because the Six pilots flew within the limitations the competition rules put on them.

The pilots though did admit that it was their fault for sticking to the rules.
This was early in either planes careers, but it still annoys the Six pilots that it happened.

This site with the Mig-21 vs the entire U.S. air corp shows what each plane was good at and the 104 was good at going fast.

http://area51specialprojects.com/migs_area51.html