And that is some absolute and total rubbish. I’m sure you can explain why in that gun camera shot of yours strangely there doesn’t seem to be any symbols and numbers or a reticle, anything to actually look and be identified like a gun camera footage from a MiG-29.
Anyway, this is a pointless discussion, it was stated earlier in this thread where is that frame actually coming from, the yanks can believe whatever they want and make stories up to justify their POV as much as they want, it won’t change what really happened (which is not what they say it happened). It only makes them look ridiculous.
Contact Aviation Week & Space Technology and tell them they are full so bs.
Of course the people there have forgotten more about defense technology than you will ever know, so give them a good laugh and fire off a letter.
Passing kills off as accidents doesn’t seem to be done. There’s no gain in it.
Truth is Iraq got pummelled and most of it’s airforce was blown up on the tarmac.
They bagged a single F/A-18 (which from memory got passed off as SAM kill because info wasn’t known).
And that’s the truth in war – so often it’s an unknown.
Aviation Week & Space Technology had an article about the missile that was filmed just before it hit the aircraft.
It was an interview with the pilot that the destroyed Mig would have shot down had another aircraft not been in the area and got the Mig before it launched.
The pilot said for the first time in his life he was truly scared as he knew another aircraft had a lock on him and he had no idea where it was.
There was no AWACS in the area which is why the pilot had no idea where the enemy aircraft was.
By the grace of God another U.S. aircraft saw what was happening before the Mig launched or it would have ended differently.
The only reason the Mig camera fimed the missile is because his gun camera was on due to the fact he was about to fire.
That is your opinion and you are welcome to it.
That is your opinion and you are welcome to it.
presumably the DPRK is aware of the above… and are thus only maintaining the air bases full of obsolete aircraft and army bases and artillery dug outs with decrepit guns as diversions against their “real” attack… light infantry infiltrations, IEDs, RPGs and light mortars carried by SF to hit US/SK airbases from behind… they would dress them up in SK clothes to create chaos “behind the lines”… and if they used 100,000 of these SF troopers behind korean lines (most in civvies or SK clothing) pandemonium would break out and a swift collapse of the SK internal security. All it will take is lots of US soldiers shooting SK civilians and soldiers by mistake (in fear that they are infiltrators) for trust to break down between the SK/US troopers on the ground (of little consequence, but if some SK troopers open up firefights with US soldiers when the US soldiers shoot at them… relations can quickly deteriorate). Also expect lots of SK troopers shooting their own approaching civilians thinking they’re infiltrators as well as IEDs by the roadside disrupting all the military convoys to the front as well as supplies to airbases… 100,000 SF behind lines is about 12,000 individual cells… each can carry out 1-2 operations per day that is an enormous number of attacks they can carry out in a short space of time… I wonder if the DPRK have now dug their tunnels across the DMZ so deep as to reduce their detectability (logging resolution decreases with depth / type of rock). they would be able to flood out thousands of their men and materials across the tunnels and the war becomes a battle of whether the SK internal security collapses before the DPRK conventional force or not…
I am guessing that the DPRK is aiming to make use of their behind the lines Sf as a potent psych-ops… the “conventional” soldiers in their dugouts will have to bear the brunt of the US/SK arty/air onslaught up until each US/SK airbase falls to the rear line infiltrators.
Its certainly
In Hollywood maybe.
South Korea is aware of the tunnels.
One hundred thousand troops through tunnels.
One or two air-strikes and the tunnels are gone along with anyone in them.
If one can believe the Wiki they have several hundred operational fighter jets and forty operational H-5 bombers.
In a real attack, if they did waves as they did during the Korean war, the H-5s could wreak real havoc on forward lines before they were all shot down.
That is assuming they know how to do low level carpet bombing.
A thread made by and for your stereotypical China hate-mongers, judging by some replies here…:mad: Anyway, if this deal will be pursued i’m looking forward to it, China will get a valuable boost to it’s defence capabilities until the indigenous 5th gens start coming in numbers, while the Russian aeronautical industry gets a welcome boost through such an order. Everybody wins (except the China/Russia haters of course).
Oh and i’m pretty sure the Chinese-Russian military technology relationship it’s much more honest and pragmatic than what some hate mongers portray it to be (the copy stuff and other uninformed rubbish). Strangely, i don’t think i’ve heard any “copying ” complaints from any relevant Russian officials, can anyone prove me wrong?
Wishful thinking at its most glorius.
You would not be related to Neville Chamberlain now would you?
Well I guess how to deal with illegal aliens planning is farther along than any admit.
Well I guess how to deal with illegal aliens planning is farther along than any admit.
Maybe Russia wants the chinese to have access to certain technologies, and the Su35 order is a way for Russia to deny selling technologies to China.
When the US get angry, Russia can say: “well it’s not our fault we never sold them the technology! They stole it from us!”.
The payment for the access to these technologies may come in another part of the “inter-government agreement”.
Nic
You are saying the Russian are stupid to the point of being moronic.
When Clinton allowed China to have computer tech. he made China a bigger threat to everyone, including the U.S.
That would be Russians doing the equivalent giving China a paddle, dropping its pants, bending over and saying “thank you sir, may I have another?”
Zero Dark Thirty— better than I thought it would be.
Identity Theft— the lead woman has a long career ahead if she does not die of heart attack.
Zero Dark Thirty— better than I thought it would be.
Identity Theft— the lead woman has a long career ahead if she does not die of heart attack.
So what you are claiming is that all adv specs coming from LM, Sukhoi and all other Aviation companies are disinformation?
Or do you mean only Russian Companies do Disinformation?
Each Company do put forward a basic spec info on their products. Why would they lie about these few number that are aviable publicly?
Does not matter what country or company, if it is more than half-true some one is telling things that should not be told.
Whether it be an exaggeration or a deliberate under estimate, the better a weapons is, the fewer facts should be known.
One thing that bugs me.. Russians are said to be world class in SAM systems.. No one seems to doubt that.. At the same time, the same technology, only used in airborne applications is still considered a generation behind.. Where do these prejudices come from?
All opinions about any countries systems as to being what is or is not x, y, or z is guess work.
If it is not, those countries basic systems of defense have already failed and they might as well put up a white flag.
The bold pronunciations here about wonder weapon a, b or c are wild guesses based on information, or disinformation, that those in power want the public to know.
The reality of said systems is unknown, if it is not, they are screwed.
“Do you think that Main Battle Tanks are now obsolete in modern warfare ( as we know it )??”
That was the OP’s question. So it begs the question in what type of warfare? Modern warfare as we know it probably does not involve large numbers of ground forces supporting tanks and armoured vehicles. These days only a few countries have the troops to mount such a war anyway.
Such an attitude is what brings about attitudes such as –no guns on fighters–U.K. White Paper–etc., not to mention U.S. soldiers in Iraq with vehicles that can be shot to pieces by rifle caliber weapons.
Any one who thinks there will never be another major war where deaths are in hundred per day is living in a world of hope that will probably come crashing down some day.
China is most likely the country that could push too many buttons and China could lose a thousand soldiers a day for a long time and still have an Army larger than any opponent.