RpRBut the F-20 doesn’t exist. Drawings on paper? Have they been kept? It was packed with parts which are no longer made, many from firms which no longer exist.
If you want an F-20, just buy the fighter version of the T-50. It’d be a damn sight cheaper than reviving the Tigershark.
I get tired of all these “let’s revive some long-dead aircraft” fantasies. They ignore practicalities. You can’t just put them into production, even if you still have the drawings. You need to do so much work that it’d be almost a new type by the time you’ve finished.
A dead aircraft fantasy is of zero difference from “we need something new”, period.
If it did exist, then the plans probably do exist and any short comings it may have had can be dealt with.
With your its gotta be new attitude, all you are doing is driving price up and creating new failures in design that no one knows about.
Your version of practicality– does not exist– except in the minds of people who will profit.
The versions of current Russian SU aircraft are proof that if it works, make it work better, not the pie-in-the-sky, based on profit idea of, “Hey we got a better idea.”
RpR[QUOTE=Lincoln 7;1992445]
OBAMA told Cameron to do the other week.
“Don’t leave the E.U. as it will affect our relationship with Russia”, that’s Your leader telling the whole of the U..K. what we should, and should not do.Is he wrong in telling an entire Nation what to do and what not to do?.Thats Obamas opinion, this post is just mine.
Lincoln .7
Obama is a cheap self-centered Chicago thug and operates in that manner.
He was a Chicago community organizer.
A journalist went to Chicago and asked people in the community he was organizer for how good of a job he did. They said at best he did nothing, so I hope your government told him not let the door hit him on the way out.:cool:
RpR[QUOTE=Lincoln 7;1992445]
OBAMA told Cameron to do the other week.
“Don’t leave the E.U. as it will affect our relationship with Russia”, that’s Your leader telling the whole of the U..K. what we should, and should not do.Is he wrong in telling an entire Nation what to do and what not to do?.Thats Obamas opinion, this post is just mine.
Lincoln .7
Obama is a cheap self-centered Chicago thug and operates in that manner.
He was a Chicago community organizer.
A journalist went to Chicago and asked people in the community he was organizer for how good of a job he did. They said at best he did nothing, so I hope your government told him not let the door hit him on the way out.:cool:
RpRWhat is really needed for COIN work is a new version of the A-1 Skyraider.
A aircooled-radial can suffer far more damage and keep flying than either a turbine or a water-cooled internal combustion engine.
The Skyraider was faster and carried a heavier load than the Super Tucano.
RpRDC Page, 1941 is not 2013.
The US and co pick on extremely low lying fruit.
A great example is Libya v Syria.
NATO intervened in Libya because Libya was basically defenceless. The Libyan AD system was marginal in 1986 and non-existent by 2011.
Situation in Syria is similar to Libya. In fact given Syrian support of terrorism and stockpiles of chemical and other WMD, there’s probably a greater reason to replace Assad with someone more amicable to international requirements sooner rather than later.
However the West stays away from Syria as it’s a much harder task than bombing tanks glowing in the desert.
Do not confuse U.S. military with political hacks sitting in the White House at the moment.
Bush was an ignorant putz who invaded Iraq while, he admitted, being totally ignorant of the possible political ramifications his treatment of the Sunnis would have in Iraq.
At the same time he was also ignorant of how incompetent his leading military adviser’s strategy was, both as far as material and methods, concerning what would happen after Hussein was gone.
Obama is an incompetent self-centered fool whose ideology controls his actions but at the same time he makes sure that if it goes wrong, he will not be blamed.
Obama will probably regret what he has done concerning Egypt, Libya or anywhere in the region but only if the press starts blaming him and stops blaming Bush.
Just as in Vietnam, soldiers are dying needlessly because of restraints put on them by Washington, for politically correct reasons, which prevents them from fighting to simply win the war and get out.
RpRI didn’t insult her, per sey, it’s what was posted on here that didn’t make sense at the time.
As for everything I read, inane remarks like you have posted yourself, have led me to the way I think about the 2nd, turns out, I was right. As I stated prior, the only people you need to fear, are yourselves, and it’s all of your own making, and I guess your ignorant also, as you don’t, or can’t be bothered to find out how Brits think, on this issue.
When are you going to get the message?. WHY DO SOME PEOPLE NEED SO MANY WEAPONS????
And why can’t anyone answer that very simple question.
Lincoln .7
I would say your rhetoric is inane but since it is asinine because it is based on an opinion based on ignorance, I will stay with what I previously said.
To some ignorance is bliss but to you it seems to be something to base your rhetoric on, no matter how ignorant it is.
Why Brits, or at least you, are infatuated with finding a supposed NEEDm is of zero importance by U.S. law.
When the U.S. Constitution was written the writers did their best to make sure citizens did not have to drop on their knees to the government, to prove their need for, or to do, anything.
If when your leaders say crap, you automatically drop your pants and squat, that is your problem, not ours.
I said it before NEED, thanks to our founding fathers, does not enter into the calculationm at allm whether practical or legal. Our Constitution makes sure it stays that way.
Some state and local wannabe dictators have tried to change that but the courts are now slowly rectifying this illegal situation.
If that bothers you, you will just have to live with it.
RpRI didn’t insult her, per sey, it’s what was posted on here that didn’t make sense at the time.
As for everything I read, inane remarks like you have posted yourself, have led me to the way I think about the 2nd, turns out, I was right. As I stated prior, the only people you need to fear, are yourselves, and it’s all of your own making, and I guess your ignorant also, as you don’t, or can’t be bothered to find out how Brits think, on this issue.
When are you going to get the message?. WHY DO SOME PEOPLE NEED SO MANY WEAPONS????
And why can’t anyone answer that very simple question.
Lincoln .7
I would say your rhetoric is inane but since it is asinine because it is based on an opinion based on ignorance, I will stay with what I previously said.
To some ignorance is bliss but to you it seems to be something to base your rhetoric on, no matter how ignorant it is.
Why Brits, or at least you, are infatuated with finding a supposed NEEDm is of zero importance by U.S. law.
When the U.S. Constitution was written the writers did their best to make sure citizens did not have to drop on their knees to the government, to prove their need for, or to do, anything.
If when your leaders say crap, you automatically drop your pants and squat, that is your problem, not ours.
I said it before NEED, thanks to our founding fathers, does not enter into the calculationm at allm whether practical or legal. Our Constitution makes sure it stays that way.
Some state and local wannabe dictators have tried to change that but the courts are now slowly rectifying this illegal situation.
If that bothers you, you will just have to live with it.
RpRDidn’t YOU state she wanted them for self defence, no mention of using them on a Range.in the first instance. If she needs that amount of ammo to protect herself, I suggests she moves to a safer place. 🙂
Jim.
Lincoln .7
Your statement is asininely ignorant, or arrogant, as it is based on nothing but your opinion.
Let’s assume for moment though.
Smart gun owners practice, the more they practice the better a gun handler they are.
Ammunition costs money. Prices go up every few years at best and often quicker.
A smart shooter buys as much ahead of time as possible to keep costs down.
A moron buys small amounts repeatedly, to placate the liberal twits who are paranoid floating the word arsenal as a gimmick to justify their paranoia, which means that person goes out to buy more and more therefore continually pays more than the person who stocks-up ahead of time.
For you to insult her for what she has done, is no more intelligent than if she were here saying your are an idiot for being afraid of U.S. gun laws based on what you read.
RpRDidn’t YOU state she wanted them for self defence, no mention of using them on a Range.in the first instance. If she needs that amount of ammo to protect herself, I suggests she moves to a safer place. 🙂
Jim.
Lincoln .7
Your statement is asininely ignorant, or arrogant, as it is based on nothing but your opinion.
Let’s assume for moment though.
Smart gun owners practice, the more they practice the better a gun handler they are.
Ammunition costs money. Prices go up every few years at best and often quicker.
A smart shooter buys as much ahead of time as possible to keep costs down.
A moron buys small amounts repeatedly, to placate the liberal twits who are paranoid floating the word arsenal as a gimmick to justify their paranoia, which means that person goes out to buy more and more therefore continually pays more than the person who stocks-up ahead of time.
For you to insult her for what she has done, is no more intelligent than if she were here saying your are an idiot for being afraid of U.S. gun laws based on what you read.
RpRNo but it is interesting.
RpRNo but it is interesting.
RpRActually , i would bet anything you want that the Israeli destroyed less Syrian aircraft than they CLAIM. That’s the thing , claims and actual kills are different matters, in pretty much every air war to date. If they claim 80 or something like that, i over-generously give them 40 to 50 at most, although i won’t be surprised with a figure 1/3 of the claims.
Also, you can be pretty certain that perhaps some of the israeli aircraft claimed as lost from SAMs or accidents might have been shot down by MiGs, a figure almost certainly higher than 0!
On a parallel issue, in the Gulf war the americans an their “allies” CLAIMED something like 45 kills , however reputable research (as in, trying to look at the things from the iraqi side too), show about 23 iraqi aircraft shot down ( not sure if helicopters included), with perhaps 4 or 5 iraqi kills. As you can see, they are not grossly exagerated figures, but very realistic ones considering the circumstances.
I’m pretty sure a similar thing must have happened in the various Arab-Israeli wars. It’s common sense.
That is your opinion, I am sure.
Errors are made.
It is too bad the F-100 pilot in Vietnam who the N. Vietnamese credit with an air-to-air has not been given his due.
RpR
RpRI am speaking of a manned aircraft trying to land on heaving deck, possibly in heavy seas.
Wars do not stop to wait for good weather.
You are going to tell me some one sitting in a chair with remote control will be able to feel exactly how the aircraft is responding have real time two hundred and seventy degree view of all that is taking place, just as well if not better than a pilot who knows instantly his own situation.
And this does not even begin to take into account battle damage.
Wave swells can come from multiple directions and the computer will have no idea it/they are coming.
By the time the controller reacts the aircraft will have slammed into the deck.
The person in the ship, especially the new huge carriers may feel it as his ears pop but will have no idea what is going on outside but by then it will be too late.
Even in the new giant carriers the vertigo caused by huge waves and swells has caused sailors to suffer sea sickness deep in the ship.
Sorry but just like all the wonder weapons paper scenarios that have cost soldiers lives in the past, this is just another one of those.
Remote controlled aircraft fine but do not kill aviators with computer games.
PS- good prediction is another way of saying educated guess.
RpRIt really is not a guessing game. The computer will use JPALS data to catch the 3 wire. If it does not sense deceleration and stop, it will fly a predetermined bolter pattern. Then it will await permission to attempt another trap.
Predetermined by what, some sort of magic.
Especially in wartime, it is not a Sunday cruise where time is not of the essence.
It cannot just keep going round and round and round till it conditions are ideal.
A pilot knows every odd thing a plane does, a computer does not, it only knows what it is supposed to do under perfect conditions.
It is called controlled crash landing for a reason.
The ship does not do what the computer tells it to do, aircraft have a go around when chance of a catastrophic failure is greater than a successful landing as determined by either or both people on the ship or the pilot.
If an aircraft is battle damaged, it becomes far, far, far more critical.
Do not think just because it has a computer that through some sort of magic that some sort of mathematical computation is going predict changing cross winds, storm waves combined with swells etc.
The ONLY way pilots maintain competency in carriers landings is with continued practice
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