Despite 533 threads, no one as yet, has answered the question I originaly posted, we have had all the facts and figures, but no definitive answer.
Does the Average American need as many weapons as they,(Some own).
It’s a simple enough question.
I see a young child was abducted from a school bus, after the perp shot dead the bus driver. Both perp and child were then known to be in a Tornado shelter in the ground.

Jim.
Lincoln .7

That is a straw-man argument question.

Does an art painting collector “need” all those paintings?
Does a stamp collector…?
Does a car collector…?
Does a family of eight need all those children?

Obviously, the bus-driver needed one more than he had.

China will be the root of a world war.

The one doing so will pass a Red Line which will not be tolerated by the International community any longer. None is in need of such a secondary electromagnetic pulse in the times of the cyber-war any longer. Most military items are hardned against that for decades for safety reasons alone.

Satellite communications cannot be hardened and an EMP would shut that down in the blink of an eye.

Aviation Week had an article a year or more ago about how the F-22 would be rendered impotent by a nuclear burst miles away.

C.D.
Warren, your understanding of your thread, is exactly how I understand it.
If it’s confusing to us, no wonder the Authorities in the various States must find it.
What happens, if Joe Bloggs buys a gun in Lousiana, (No background checks at all) then takes the weapon say 2.000 miles away to where he lives in another State, is he forced to declare the purchased weapon upon crossing the State Border?. :confused: where they do have background checks and perchance different Laws regarding weapons?.
Jim.
Lincoln .7

Depending on the handgun, the only State where one might have a problem is California.
Some cities have laws that will cause a problem also.

The handgun sale and purchase will be on the ATF records, as required by law, for x years at which time the record is supposed to be destroyed.

If the handgun turns up in the hands of a criminal arrested, or is traced to a crime, the buyer may have charges brought for straw-man purchase.

Though it is never reported in the news, some private sellers do contact the FBI for a back-ground check for their own files even though it is not required.

A more likely scenario would be what if Russia and China got into a full scale war, or possibly China and India.

Russia would win the air war, but the ground war would be grueling bloody thing.
With India the simple topography should put the winner in category of who ever controls the air.

Sixes little brother, F-102.

Well ‘BATF’ is the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms; haven’t you seen all that snazzy ‘ATF’ body-armour they wear (like the ‘FBI’) on those US TV programmes? And ‘FFL’ must be Federal Firearms Licence…

…or Fantasy Football League! 😀

Give the man a ceeegarrrr! ( lingerie football league, which actually exited/s)

A FFL is the basic license for being able to retail firearms. The ATF comes and checks to see it one is doing it legally and , on occasion, at Washington’s orders, go on witch hunts.

There are two higher levels of being able to commercially deal with firearms, class 3, which allows one to sell fully auto firearms and other destructive devices, and buy new ones, which Reagan made illegal for anyone without a class 2 or 3 back in 1986. I.e., the average citizen can now ONLY buy fully auto firearms which are pre-1986 which caused the price of said same to rise by over five hundred percent.

Class 2 allows one to manufacture destructive devices and do anything a standard FFL and Class 3 can do.
It is the one, one should really have if one wants to make firearms ones occupation.
It also allows import-export but there are some other strings attached to that also.

I went to gunsmith school and attended the Shot Show down at Vegas some years back, and was fortunate enough to be able to engage ATF officials.
I found out the left hand really does not know what the right hand it doing as when I asked some questions on rules, an agent would often say ” go talk to fred, or bill, etc. as that is not my area and I do not know the answer.”
I also found out that legally, and one had better have enough money or connections to a good lawyer to do this, anyone can manufacture his own prototype fully auto firearm.
Limits are, ONLY– he may fire it–he may own it, ever , unless he gets a class 2, and if he wants to make two, he will need a class 2.
Now that does not mean that if that one becomes the subject of a witch hunt that the Feds. will not come down and make his life miserable. If he cannot get a good enough lawyer (fortunately there are lawyers that specialize in this area) he will end up in prison, regardless of it being legal.

As I said in a previous post, the only thing that kept that FFL dealer out of prison was the fact he had a triplicate copy, (which proved that he had not done what the ATF said he had done) not that he had not broken any law.

Doesn’t that worry anybody? I mean, if there are no background checks made during a private gun sale, doesn’t that mean that virtually anybody can buy a gun privately?

And once you’ve bought your gun, how does anybody in authority know you’ve still got it? Are guns ‘tracked’ by serial number?

They do not know, nor should they.
Federal records are supposed to, by law, be destroyed every x number of years.
Private sales are unrecorded.

FFL sellers MUST keep thorough records legally. For their own sake, for protection against the BATF which on occasion, goes on witch hunts, in minimum triplicate.(The witch hunts oddly seem to be follow a pattern with which party is in power.)

(One I was acquainted with a decade ago was subject to such a witch hunt and ONLY the fact he kept triplicates, they took the other two copies, of which one was lost so he could not prove his normal copy existed, saved his buttocks)

The government has no right to, in any manner, to intrude in private matters, including what one legally owns, even though they are working at changing that every year, and not just with firearms.
The more things that become illegal, the more government can tell you what to do, or not do, with the threat of making any one who does not bow, a felon, as the tool. (Except, illegally crossing the border which is already a felony.)