VKS Su-25s have returned to Hmeymim and were spotted over Aleppo recently:

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=a57_1474735441

Anyway they are back there for a reason. Something big is coming.

Its not over Aleppo, likely Latakia.

This once more confirms one of the reasons behind the Russian “mission accomplishment” we saw early this year which coincided with the terror sponsors threat/statements regarding equipping the terrorists with manpads.

The Su-25s were completely withdrawn and only the Su-24s remained. Its a good coming back for the Su-25s, now with defensive suites & more precise striking potential, hope they increase the numbers to per-ceasefire level.

Some low level flights over sea/beach by Ka-52 & Mi-8 in Tartous
https://twitter.com/hamza_780/status/780023069775724544

Low level flight of Mi-8 & Mi-24 over sea/beach in Latakia
https://twitter.com/hamza_780/status/779690046186196992

Btw, whats with this low level flight of the Russian helos we see often in Syria, is it just to have some tease with the Syrian civilians or just to go under probable “partners” radar coverage?

And a question to the guys, how effective is the defensive suite on the Russian helos operating in Syria?

No Russian helos/gunships have been operating in the Aleppo area and none was there even during the last South and North/East Aleppo clashes. No gunsips have not been operating due to the threat of manpads in the area and was not there to support the ground units when the terrorists launched their 3-4 phase offensive to break the Syrian frontlines nor were they available when the battle for castello road was going on earlier. No visual proof I have seen to the contrary.

The only helo that came to news sadly was that of a Russian Mi-8 that got shot down (just after the start of the Jihadi’s south Aleppo offensive) near Idlib-Aleppo countryside that was returning to the reconciliation centre after their aid mission to Aleppo. The 5 crew members body was savagely (moderately) played round by the moderate terrorists. Syria (reportedly) finally secured the 5 crew members dead body from the moderate terrorists by exchanging over 160 moderate terrorists captured (pows).

Su-24M and cannon fire at night, a weird and unlikely combination.. that was a slow mover, IMHO..

Yes unlikely combination, but for the Jihadi fanboys.
Paralay with the earlier post of an A-10 video probably meant it could be the A-10…the slow moving, familiar sound, close air support aircraft for wiping out convoys.

And a good one. Have some faith in God. If there is anyone who didn’t laugh after watching this video, do raise your hands. 😀

The Russians say –
1) We didn’t do it
2) the convoy caught fire by itself
3) it was a legitimate target because there were rebel mortars mixed up with it.

In other words, Russia’s information management is confused & contradictory, just as with the airliner shot down over Ukraine, which was shot down either by a Ukrainian SAM, a Ukrainian Su-25, it can’t have been shot down by a Su-25 because that’s not physically possible, it was shot down by a Su-27, there weren’t any Su-27s close enough . . . . All from official Russian sources.

As the above proves, we can’t trust what any arm of the Russian state says because even if we want to believe them, we don’t know which story to choose & some of them are unbelievable. So we have to set their stories aside for the moment & look for other sources of information.

1) That is Russia’s position
2) Thats your making, I have not seen Russian side claiming such….. where did you get that from?
3) That was legitimate target but Russia did not attack it and the reason why the convoys was able to unload its aid packages (whatever it was).

And FYI, which western propaganda make sure to hide, the Russia side had already said that they tracked the convoys with UAVs only on their way to the destination and once the cargo was delivered they stopped the UAV coverage.
So the UAV visual where we saw the terrorists moving their weapons alongside the aid convoy was when the aid convoy was moving to their aid destination which the terrorists used to piggy back their heavy arms transfer.

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There are lots of lessons that Russia needs to badly learn (which they havn’t yet) and they need to change their ROE based on the ground realities and stockup the required inventory/systems needed to enforce that ROE.

The propagandist skipped the recent treacherous and utterly disgraceful attack on SAA units fighting the terrorits by the coailation airfroce. The coilation has been claiming that it was after gathering intelligence over the days that they carried out the strikes, but ground realities is there for everyone to see. As said by the coailation sources, the attack was coordinated, but the coordination was with the ISIS to capture the highlands near Deir-Ez-Zor airport so as to render it unsafe for aircrafts to bring in supplies. This has to be one of the best results ISIS had in recent time against the Syrian army @ Deir-Ez-Zor.

Without new ROE to cater to the ground realities – Turkey backed terrorists fighting in the North (and not limited to), Isreal backed terrorists fighting in the South (and not limited to), US backed terrorists fighting all over, there cannot be real progress. The terrorists supporters aim would be to distract the Russian/Syrian forces and drag them into a much wider conflict so that their buddies ars on the ground are saved and can progress much better. High time Russia realized that terrorists groups have got their supporting airforces to aid them whenever needed in their fight against the Syrian armed forces and this aspect needs to be taken into account and act accordingly.

Pella shipyard is likely preparing to built navy’s new class(es) of support ships……the only problem is that Pella facility in Russia does not have the capability to built large ships, so they will be building it in Germany.

This is the case with these private yards, once they taste blood, they start leaching upon everything…. Pella looks going the same way as that of Severnya. Greed never has its ends. These arsoles have some real contacts inside the establishment to sway the deals (which need to be broken!). Else I simply don’t understand how these two yards gobble up all the orders. And on top of it they are planning to built these in Hamburg, Germany, as if the two Mistrals saga was not enough. Fking incompetent morons in the establishment. Just when I think Indian establishment is the worst, the Russian beat them hands down. And just when I feel Russian establishment is the worst, Indians beat them. No wonder both of them get along pretty well with all the mess that prop up often…

https://ria.ru/defense_safety/20160908/1476439000.html

08.09.2016

KUBINKA (Moscow region), September 8 — RIA Novosti. The Petersburg company “Pella” implements the technical specification of the Ministry of defense of Russia to create a modern support vessels for the Navy of the Russian Federation, told RIA Novosti on Thursday during an international military-technical forum “Army-2016”, the representative of the company Andrey Slimy.

It comes with a universal marine tanker and the ship kolektorna project 23120М.

Kolektorna court intended for the production of road equipment, performance of repair work on ships, the transportation of dry cargoes, towing of floating objects.

“Now comes the test design documentation. There is a reference from the defence Ministry,” said Slimy.

He noted that the tanker and kolektorna the ship is the engineering subsidiary of the company — “Pella, Sites”, located in Hamburg. There they will be built, as the Russian shipyard is not meant to build such large vessels.

“The court will be built in Russia on the basis of the German companies. Manual Pella, Sites” — our,” said Slimy.

He noted that the construction of ships for the Russian Navy could take place in about a year and a half, and their construction will take up to 18 months.

“From similar ships of the previous generation these are used in the construction of modern technologies and equipment. When they are created using innovative engineering solutions”, — said the representative of the shipyard.

OJSC “Pella” traditionally build for the Russian Navy tug boats of different tonnage — from December 2015 — small missile ships of the project 22800 “Karakurt” launchers RK “Caliber-NK”.

TR1 & others, anymore info on the project and spec would be helpful.

“kolektorna Project 23120М” (I have lost track, is it really the one?)

The new “universal marine tanker”

Good news. IL-112 is to fly next year right?

Rus navy MiG-29K

Ballistic missiles launches that was carried out from road mobile launchers on 6th Sep 2016 by the Koreans.
http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2109914.html

Project 23000, starting to like this one.
Deck capacity shows slots for around 45+ aircraft.

Project 23560 (Primakov class?), first of the class was named after former Russian Prime Minister Yevgeny Primakov.
The beam in this 2015 spec sheet is 23 meters, up from the 20 meters which was first mentioned.

You have got to be kidding me ! do you seriously believe what you have written here ? One of the most unbelievable statements I have ever read ! So by your thinking DCNS must have presented plans for the Agosta Class to India in their bid to win the contract to build the Scorpene Class ?

Can you confirm that French never gave anything of that sort in the case of Aussie deal?
Falklands war, Iraq war…how well was the integrity of the French systems?

In the case of Agostas, they are far below (not downplaying its capability or combat potential) what the Indian navy already had and in all likelihood the Indian 877s would have already made a databank of those subs.

Agosta class was the last from the French which still had that ww2 u-boat touch where as the Scorpene was a new generation sub that marked a complete departure for the French conventional submarines.
So the likely standards that DCNS would have presented to the Indian team would be those which they achieved for the Chilean navy (and even Malaysian navy) scorpenes. Any stuff regarding the older Agosta’s would be a good thing to have which can also come in the form of including it in the threat library and doesnt have to be presented in the hard copy form.

You obviously just have an issue with Australia, get over it.

Actually, its Australia which have issues with everyone else other than their “homelanders” and their minions. They are insecure about the Indonesians invading them, Chinese invading them, have been the prime snooper on behalf of their master on the Indian navy all these decades and their only adversary in the Indian ocean region was the Indian navy. Its only after Indian political elites started bending over for Aussi’s masters that the “hostility” and “adversary” stuffs went underground, but definitely not vanished from the decision process. The last major open snooping on the high seas (which got reported) was with the case with INS Delhi near Indian waters after its induction. They dropped off the snobouys around the destroyer for obvious reasons. Indian navy doesn’t go down under and drop sonobouys around aussie ships near aussie waters…

^^ Austin, that has to be some sort of nonsense. The guys should have straight away gone to the US and asked for leasing couple of LA class subs which are there in good numbers unlike the 971 series which is already limited and the 885 which is an even more rare species.

Seriously wondering if these guys think with their bottom side up?

And what are they expecting, Russia to lease these for peanuts? And when Russia refuses to lease 885 due to various reasons, the trolls in media will be having a field day bitching the treacherous Russians.

Seriously man, you know what comes to my mind when I see this procurement/bargaining drama…..that short video/clip/skit based on the “normal” shopping habits of affluent Indians…. who have no shortage of money or budget or even any sort bargaining in the malls or for international brands, where as they bargain and squeeze out every single paisa/rupee they can from the local/street vendor selling their stuffs.