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  • in reply to: Russian Navy Thread #2016454
    JangBoGo
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    pr.20380 diesels coughing up during start up… usual.

    http://balancer.ru/forum/punbb/attachment.php?item=284224&download=1

    Snake,

    Little lazy to search more. Can you please provide some spec and details for the sub. If it is meant as rescue module for submarines during trials, we can also consider it as an operational units which can be air-transported during emergencies.

    Illustration for Mistrals…..translation?
    http://alex-kulakoff.livejournal.com/4129.html

    http://pics.livejournal.com/alex_kulakoff/pic/00013qzk

    in reply to: INS Vikramaditya: Steaming towards Induction #2016455
    JangBoGo
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    The island and the mast… expecting experts to pick up the finer details on the structures.

    http://pics.livejournal.com/kuleshovoleg/pic/000he0c5

    http://pics.livejournal.com/kuleshovoleg/pic/000hfx7s

    http://pics.livejournal.com/kuleshovoleg/pic/000hgfhk

    http://pics.livejournal.com/kuleshovoleg/pic/000hhzqe

    http://pics.livejournal.com/kuleshovoleg/pic/000hsqp3

    in reply to: INS Vikramaditya: Steaming towards Induction #2016456
    JangBoGo
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    call it symbolic…

    http://pics.livejournal.com/kuleshovoleg/pic/000h63g3

    … Admiral Gorshkov emerges out from the past in a totally new avatar as INS Vikramaditya. She is a beauty 😎

    Now waiting for other carriers to arrive, IAC-I and CVF. Both are going to be pretty. It has been pretty boring seeing only American carriers all these years. :p

    in reply to: INS Vikramaditya: Steaming towards Induction #2016457
    JangBoGo
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    Severodvinsk’s proximity to the Arctic Circle means the Sun never sets from late May to mid-July, so those pictures could well have been taken at the scheduled departure time of 02:00! A big thanks to Mr. Oleg Kuleshov!

    I’ve never been a fan of the Kiev class and seeing the rusting, beached hull of Gorshkov a few years back made me wonder what the Indians have let themselves in for.
    But I have to admit Sevmash did a fine job in the end and INS Vikramaditya certainly looks an impressive and handsome piece of kit. Kudos.

    Jo, good points…i never though about that aspect. But not sure if those images are from the 2-4a.m.

    I too have some dislikes for the Kiev class design, mainly the placement of the island and the lifts. Considering that the whole island was built separately and then integrated onto the deck, I do wonder, if modification could have played more with trimming down its footprint into the middle of the deck. But we have to live with it.

    Overall it has been a good work from Sevmash even after all the bad publicity and if we take out the 3-4 years of indecision period (fund stagnation) for the project, Sevmash did that splendid job of converting the carrier, undertaking sea trials and delivery in 5-6 years. That is pretty decent record and I’m confident enough to say that if Sevmash is given a contract to built another unit of N-powered Kuznetsov with uninterrupted and steady funding, they will handsomely complete it in 5 years!

    TR1,
    Thnks for the info.

    and some nice shots from the stern…

    http://pics.livejournal.com/kuleshovoleg/pic/000k482e

    http://pics.livejournal.com/kuleshovoleg/pic/000k5z3r

    in reply to: INS Vikramaditya: Steaming towards Induction #2016458
    JangBoGo
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    One add-on (rather cut-out) the starboard is the facility for a new boat. In post #64 attachment (illustration on the work done) also we can see a new “cut-out” in front of the existing area. What is it for, just for embarking an additional boat??

    The already embarked boats on either sides are not life boats and might be entrusted with securing the perimeter of the carrier on port visits and for making contact with vessels approaching the carrier. All the boats looks like equipped with radar, including the ones stationed on the deck and covered. INS Vikramaditya already have good facility for boats on either side and 3 are stored on the side of the island. The new one makes it a total of 8 boats. Any info on those?

    http://pics.livejournal.com/igorriw/pic/00038bra/s640x480

    http://pics.livejournal.com/kuleshovoleg/pic/000hx3s8

    large image…. it gives a good perspective of the starboard extensions and the mast.
    http://nl.media.rbth.ru/web/in-rbth/images/2012-06/big/vikra_468.jpg

    in reply to: INS Vikramaditya: Steaming towards Induction #2016459
    JangBoGo
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    Oleg have added more…
    http://kuleshovoleg.livejournal.com/65378.html

    posting some more of the brilliant photos.

    http://pics.livejournal.com/kuleshovoleg/pic/000gz1yh

    http://pics.livejournal.com/kuleshovoleg/pic/000k26ae

    http://pics.livejournal.com/kuleshovoleg/pic/000hz3ph

    http://pics.livejournal.com/kuleshovoleg/pic/000k04ch

    http://pics.livejournal.com/kuleshovoleg/pic/000k1ta0

    http://pics.livejournal.com/kuleshovoleg/pic/000hkhh1
    http://pics.livejournal.com/kuleshovoleg/pic/000hp6g0

    A questions – what is the new white dome that we see at the stern on starboard?

    in reply to: Russian Navy Thread #2016542
    JangBoGo
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    Mitrofan is still in service (reserve) though it is interesting that the class was all but abandoned, and yet expensive foreign barges (Mistrals) are being bought.

    yea…but I think she did not taken any voyage after her induction..

    I see a lot of potential in her and a dedicated upgrade like the INS Vikramaditya would do good to her. There is lots of space that can be utilized by proper addition & removal of metals. But there is a need for redesigning of the basic platform and it was well within the capability of the Russian design bureaus. Instead they wasted time creating pr.11711.
    Mistrals are a bad deal and I still do not see much point in that costly French “marvel”…

    in reply to: Indian Navy : News & Discussion – V #2016543
    JangBoGo
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    -The basic design will remain the same for S-5. Introducing a whole new design, that too with a completely different propulsion system(double reactors and double shafts, probably meaning double the hull diameter as well) would mean a completely new class of submarine, not just ‘Arihant class S-5’.

    Then have no doubt that the S-5 is going to have such a hump…!

    w.r.t to the reactor installation and the related stuff…your are wrong my dear. The reactors are not placed side-by side. In the double-reactor Russian submarines, they are installed as reflection/mirror images. Also, double reactors does not necessarily have to mean double shafts or double hull dia meter etc.

    -The Russians are offering consultancy for this program, not complete ready-to-use designs. This was clarified by actual govt sources in an interview before. The idea of purchasing a modified Delta IV design from Rubin is as unlikely as Prasun’s own earlier fantasy that the Arihant would be based on the Akulas.

    Consultancy sometimes means design transfer…..I don’t know if anyone truly believes that India have a submarine design capability. I certainly do not. And that can be seen by the desperate and complete mess that is made out of P75 programme. A Nation with N-submarine designing capability (which is much more complex than diesel-electric) never struggles & beg for SSK design…. Problems and struggling with performance of individual components and as a platform are a normal process, but India have not reached that stage yet as the first step is basic designing, the above said part comes during testing and validating process of the system.

    in reply to: Indian Navy : News & Discussion – V #2016544
    JangBoGo
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    That model was one of the proposal for Borei SSBN which was put forward by Rubin , it was a further evolution of Delta-4 model some call it Delta-5. Ofcourse they went with a different design.

    But if that model is put forward by NPOL then its possible Rubin must have sold that design for S-5

    I too think so….the design might have came through “consultancy” 😉

    Even if for a moment we consider that this design did not came from Rubin through consultancy and is purely based on the S-2 Arihant (which anyway is a Russian design), then also a final product is likely to look like what we see in NPOL illustration. It is due to the simple fact that the length of the SLBM silos are going to demand such a hump on the small dia Arihant/ATV based hull.

    Many chicken head Indian experts on online forums are going to have a bitter taste of their own medicine when this turns into reality because the guys were making fun of the Chinese for their 092 class of SSBN for having those hump. :p

    Anyway its good progression as a single propeller design is going to have its advantages and the Russian consultancy is going to show its value in the final result.

    in reply to: Russian Navy Thread #2016601
    JangBoGo
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    Are these meant for basing on the pr.21300 Igor Belousov submarine rescue vessel? proper translation?
    http://kuleshovoleg.livejournal.com/63955.html

    in reply to: INS Vikramaditya: Steaming towards Induction #2016603
    JangBoGo
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    older article

    INS Vikramaditya set for Sea Trials May 25
    By Cmde Ranjit B Rai (Retd)
    Published: May 2012

    Vice Admiral Mahadevan indicated in an informal chat that the capabilities of INS Vikramaditya would be many times more than initially planned….

    The key training modules have been kept at 27 for the Commanding officer and air element officers, 23 for engineering and 15 electrical officers, 12 NBCD specialists, 118 weapons senior and junior sailors, 280 mechanics, and 157 maintenance and automation maintainers.

    The rest will be provided ‘on board training’ to operate and maintain the Vikramaditya after commissioning.

    © India Strategic

    Video from RIA Novosti of INS Vikramaditya’s depart for sea trials….
    http://en.rian.ru/video/20120608/173924755.html

    in reply to: Russian Navy Thread #2016605
    JangBoGo
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    ^^^ yup true…..and we see that attachment to her with the flag the guys came up with. They must have been somewhat related to Gorshkov during her earlier life.

    Two of Russia’s (former) aircraft carrier are now in the process of sea trials after lot of hard-work that went into restoring them into operational condition and both of them looks magnificent.

    But the more unfortunate probably have been the last of the pr.1174 ships that came online in 1989 (?) and never even saw a single voyage/deployment….probably almost zero mileage after she was commissioned. I personally feel the pr.1174 would have made a better platform for IN than the almost useless trenton..

    in reply to: INS Vikramaditya: Steaming towards Induction #2016606
    JangBoGo
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    Its a good day overall…INS Vikramaditya started off new life and in Euro Cup 2012, Russia is already leading (expected) by 2 unilateral goals over the Czech after having missed (expected) atleast two golden chances..

    INS Vikramaditya begins sea trials
    MOSCOW, June 8, 2012
    Vladimir Radyuhin

    http://www.thehindu.com/multimedia/dynamic/01107/Vikramaditya_leave_1107722g.jpg

    The newly refurbished INS Vikramaditya aircraft carrier took to the sea for the first time on Friday.

    The carrier sailed out for crucial pre-delivery trials in the early hours of June 8 from the berth of the Sevmash shipyard in Russia’s northern city of Severodvinsk, where the former Soviet heavy aviation cruiser Gorshkov had been converted into a regular aircraft carrier christened Vikramaditya.

    During the trials, scheduled to last 120 days, all the ship’s systems will be tested.

    An entirely Indian touch to INS Vikramaditya
    MYSORE, June 8, 2012
    R. Krishna Kumar

    http://www.thehindu.com/multimedia/dynamic/01106/08BGMACHINE_1106849f.jpg
    The dosa-making machine at CFTRI in Mysore. Photo: M.A. Sriram

    Six dosa-making and three idli-making machines have been installed on the aircraft carrier

    Even as aircraft carrier INS Vikramaditya, formerly Admiral Gorshkov, is getting ready for pre-induction trials, it has seen the successful demonstration of a product that is exclusively Indian.

    For, a group of engineers from Eskay Enterprises, Bangalore, has installed six dosa-making machines and three idli-making machines on board INS Vikramaditya and just returned from Arkhangelsk region in Russia where the ship was docked. It will help serve traditional Indian delicacies to the Indian crew once the ship is commissioned.

    The automated dosa and idli making technology was developed by Mysore-based Central Food Technological Research Institute (CFTRI) and Eskay Enterprises is one of the licensees authorised to manufacture the automated machines.

    Sources told The Hindu that initially CFTRI was contacted by the Defence authorities with a request to install the machines on board Admiral Gorshkov which was being overhauled and retrofitted with modern equipment to emerge in its new avatar as INS Vikramaditya.

    “But CFTRI being a research institute does not have the mandate for bulk manufacturing of products though it develops the technology. Hence, we asked the Defence Ministry to contact one of our licensees in Bangalore who participated in the bid and was chosen for installation,” the sources said.

    S. Krishna Murthy, who owns Eskay Enterprises, said that he obtained the technology from CFTRI and upgraded it for commercial viability before releasing it the market. Both the dosa-making and idli-making machinery have been installed in 12 ships of the Indian Navy so far. “But installing it on board the INS Vikramaditya was privileged work. We have just returned from Russia, and the automated dosa and idli-making machines will be fine-tuned once the ship is handed over to India in December,” Mr. Krishna Murthy said.

    The automated technology will enable assembly-line production of 400 dosas and 1,000 idlis an hour on each machine and will cater to the nearly 2,000 crew members who will be on board the ship. Mr. Krishna Murthy said that eight wet grinders have also been installed for grinding rice and other ingredients for batter.

    The technology was developed by the CFTRI in 1998 and since then has proved to be popular in major industries where catering for a large workforce requires mass production. The machines have been so designed that they take care of all operations pertaining to making a dosa such as spreading batter to the requisite size, oiling, cooking and even dispensing curry and chutney. The automated technology also ensures that hygienic norms are observed in the kitchen as it obviates manual labour during mass production of idlis and dosas of uniform taste.

    on board no one is going to have any delay in getting their dosas and idlis 😉

    An earlier report regarding the trial..

    Fire in INS Vikramaditya Not Delays Sea Trials
    05.06.2012

    Fire happened to Indian aircraft carrier INS Vikramaditya (former Russian cruiser Admiral Gorshkov) retrofitted by defense shipyard Sevmash in Severodvinsk “by no means will affect the ship’s gearing up for sea trials”, the yard’s press secretary Anastasia Nikitinskaya told ITAR-TASS.

    According to her, “a fumigation of technical insulation occurred on June 1 and was eliminated in five minutes”. “In full accordance with regulations, all people were evacuated from smoke-filled premises, and fire brigades were called, but there was no need for them”, explained Mrs. Nikitinskaya.

    in reply to: Navies news from around the world -IV #2016609
    JangBoGo
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    http://img.vz.ru/upimg/636/636014.jpg

    INS Vikramaditya begins sea trials
    Vladimir Radyuhin

    The newly refurbished INS Vikramaditya aircraft carrier took to the sea for the first time on Friday.

    The carrier sailed out for crucial pre-delivery trials in the early hours of June 8 from the berth of the Sevmash shipyard in Russia’s northern city of Severodvinsk, where the former Soviet heavy aviation cruiser Gorshkov had been converted into a regular aircraft carrier christened Vikramaditya.

    During the trials, scheduled to last 120 days, all the ship’s systems will be tested.

    in reply to: INS Vikramaditya: Steaming towards Induction #2016612
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