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November 25, 2014 at 3:18 pm in reply to: WW2 in East Africa #891661

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To claim only the SAAF’s 40+ aircraft, however important their contribution, stood alone against 300 Italian is a propaganda myth.

Please check again in the movie: at no time is said or insinuated or claimed that the SAAF stood alone against the RA. Maybe you interpret it that way, but it was definitely not meant to be that way. Remember the narrative is from the point of view of the SAAF and goes: “At the outset of hostilities there were only forty SA aircraft facing an estimated 300 Italian machines”. “only” here mean there were a very few South African aircraft and does not mean they were the only Allied aircraft in the conflict which is of course wrong.

Some people commenting in this thread in any case interpreted the narrative the correct way.

Anyway we can bla bla bla here forever and we can labour the issue of misinterpretation but I still feel it is wrong to say this movie is:

a) An insult to the French:D
b) An insult to the Indians:highly_amused:
c) An insult to the British:cool:
d) A myth:mad:
e) Propaganda:o
e) Gross distortion:cool:
f) History Hollywood style:rolleyes:

November 25, 2014 at 6:51 am in reply to: WW2 in East Africa #892254

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Hi everyone who commented on the film. Just discovered this thread.

Yes I made the film as a donation project for our local SAAF museum here in Cape Town.

Please note this film is a privately made thing with zero budget and my free hours. All animated maps, animated flight scenes were self made with the help of own software and the IL-2 flight sim

Thanks for all the complements.

Thanks again Michael Auld for your permission to use your great footage on the Gladiator and Hurricane mk.1 :very_drunk:

Thanks also for the critics.

Some of the critics are a bit harsh and unfair. Remember this is a specific film concentrating on the SAAF’s role during the campaign.

I admit there are some mistakes in this movie but I made sure about the facts with the top SA historian on this topic, Michael Schoeman and he gave the thumbs up on the narrative.

Nasty comments as per example made by this fellow below, is not on:

The usual lack of response to true history vs myth. Yes, clearly it was made for a South African audience, but claims of “only 40 of ours vs 300 of theirs” is a gross distortion and does not do credit to the very real achievements of the SAAF in the theatre. It is downright insulting to the British, Indian, French and other contributors to the battles. But I guess they don’t matter. It’s only “history Hollywood style”.

Allow me to reply.

Facts are, and by no means a myth as claimed by this guy:

Then lastly in the film it is said: “The air defence in East Africa therefore fell almost entirely on the shoulders of the SAAF” This is a fact and not a myth. I am sure if you examine the total number Italian aircraft destroyed during this campaign, overall but particularly in the air, you will find that the vast majority of those losses were caused by the SAAF and thus confirms this statement.

June 17, 2012 at 5:41 pm in reply to: FlyPast July Issue – OUT NOW #993053

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Very good article on Marseille’s combat claims of 3 June 1942; well done Michael Schoeman and the Fly Past staff for it being nicely presented!

The SAAF fighter pilot mentioned, Cecil Golding, is still around and I interviewed him in 2011 where he described what happened on that day. Here the short interview video (with animation):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbWc-dZT74c

Cecil Golding 1944

I also succeeded to make contact with the Stuka pilot that Cecil shot down on that day, Hans Deibl. Hans also is still much alive and lives in Austria. Hans sent me his war photographs and here some of them:

Hans in captivity, Canada. The person marked with a cross is Friedrich Kroner, the Bf 109 pilot that actually shot Cecil down on 3 June 1942 and not Marseille.

Hans in 2011 with his latest great grand child!

Hans and Cecil are now again in regular communication.

April 19, 2012 at 7:43 am in reply to: WW2 desert fighter pilot Peter Metelerkamp #1068102

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Great photos!
Wasn’t that the cemetery which was desecrated recently?

Yes but I have heard about 200 tomb stones got damaged as well as the main pinnacle:mad:
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