so it has been confirmed that the F-35 is not a dogfighter, far from it, because “it doesn’t need to be”. as I’ve long predicted
so if the Finnish Air Force wants a dogfighter, the F-35 is not an option. if dogfighting is not a priority, then they might as well go with UCAVs
What UCAV’s? Yeah, I can already see reapers launching sidewinders at Su-30’s and MiG-29’s. That’s going to end well.
Young mechanic who earlier worked with F-18 gives his opinion about F-35.
http://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/absolute-youngest-marine-in-the-f-35-test-force-shares-1716981177
Dustin answers questions in comment section and he doesn’t share the view that F-35 is hard to maintain.
It doesn’t matter. Ars Technica published an article on the subject that does a great job of explaining why.
We’ve got a ton of platforms that are very capable of air superiority. Remember what I said about F/A-18? Getting that kind of performance out of a multi-role comes at an incredible cost later in the platform’s lifecycle.
Besides, we aren’t fighting that type of war, and if at some point in the future we can’t defend airspace with our surface technology, there are tons of options at our disposal.
As for the “reports” of JSF being harder on maintenance man-hours, I’ll believe that when it comes from someone with actual experience on the platform.
Well, broadly. The Saudis are using them well enough now and I would guess that Typhoon will be deployed to the IS front soon for the UK. Other than that, yes.
You do of course, have to remember that the construction of the Typhoon’s air intake is the main driver for its air to air success:D:angel:
Indeed.. Those composite intakes really can do wonders 😉
You should remember that JF-17 has DSI so it’s far better than Eurofighter and Rafale.
in long range air combat, sure. it’s a matter of someone spotting the target (be it AWACS, satellite, forward aircraft…) and relaying the target data. then it comes down to pumping missiles at the target
really just the same principle of any SAM system or the F-22 and F-35: detect, engage, keep shooting until its down
and then UAVs and UCAVs have the natural advantage, because they’re cheaper and relatively expandableyou see the same thing with tanks: they keep getting better, but so do anti-tank weapons
so when a country spends years and millions to develop a new tank, a few years later another country brings out its latest infantry based RPG
to the point where well equiped infantry can destroy the latest multi-million Dollar tank with ease and at low cost
it becomes even worse when you look at IEDs blowing up expensive Humveesto compare that to fighter jets, if a cheap UCAV or UAV with optical missiles can sneak up on, or swarm a $150 million F-22 or F-35, they can perfectly well shoot them down
the UAV might not be much, but it’s just there to bring the missile within range
I’d bet the latest Python missile can already take out any stealth aircraft. what platform you launch it from becomes largely irrelevantan on AI, the F-22s hardware and software is already ancient compared to the F-35s
in the same way, the F-35s tech is already old compared to some of the latest stuff out there, because it’s based on 90’s tech
that’s like comparing the best 90’s phone to the latest 2015 smartphone. talk about emberassing
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/12/26/newest-u-s-stealth-fighter-10-years-behind-older-jets.html
If it was any other fighter people who hate F-35 wouldn’t be complaining this much… that is only embarrassing thing in here. Luckily enough for us F-35 can be upgraded so need worry. David Axe didn’t mention anything about the F-35 tested lacking important systems because it would have ruined his story and this is nothing more than another futile attempt of F-35 haters to get themselves some fame.
Your UCAV swarms are nothing more than fantasy.
who needs F-35 clones when you can make UCAVs?
they don’t even need to be very stealthy, if you can keep the price low enough ($15-$25 million). in a conflict the air will be full of radar jamming, so any radar effectiveness will be reduced
then you basically have an intelligent, stealthy long range flying SAM battery
spread them out over an area, and program to use passive sensors to detect enemy aircraft or ground/sea targets of opportunity
communicate via satellite or chained radio signals, almost impossible to detect, jam or intercept
equip them with medium range missiles for attack and short ranged missiles that can shoot down enemy missiles, giving them the reach to hit an F-35 or even an F-22, and making them an extremely hard target for long range AMRAAM shotsat that point the F-35 will have to chase these UCAVs, and they’ll need to fire multiple AMRAAMs to shoot just one down
by doing so they expose themselves to counter-attacks by other UCAVs or hunter-killer J-20s/T-50s that’ll use the UCAVs as bait. at a 5 UCAVs vs 1 F-35 cost rate, not counting the pilot
this also works with non-stealthy UAVs, basically long range MALDS, these can be made very cheap
against an F-22 it would be harder to pull off because it operates faster and at a higher altitude
Yes, all these incredibly cheap UCAV’s what can do anything what current fighters can. Let’s come back to this when first one flies with radar and capability to kill current generation manned fighters… while costing less than 50 million. I still haven’t seen this amazing AI what can do dog fighting and so many other things… no doubt it’s also very cheap & simple to code.
Take a look how much they are wrestling with codes on F-35 and you seriously think it’s easier for any real UCAV what needs to do combat maneuvers on it’s own, etc?
in case you missed it: JPO did not deny a single word of the test pilot statements
In case you missed it: That F-35 didn’t have many of it’s systems what would be there in production aircraft. But as said before… F-35 haters like to pretend that it was a production fighter.
Good that Pentagon put things straight but as expected F-35 haters don’t want to hear about it.
Speak for yourself, dear.
So you believe David Axes post on the basis that you don’t like F-35? Where is the evidence that Axe has even spoken to any F-16 pilot? If someone makes a claim they should be able to prove it… that’s how it works.
This is news to the fans and valuable confirmation to the rest of us. Note that the WunderWaffe got creamed by a two-seater Block 40 that was at least 23 years old and had the initial-standard F110-GE-100 engine.
It’s not news until we have sources.
Full story: https://medium.com/war-is-boring/test-pilot-admits-the-f-35-can-t-dogfight-cdb9d11a875
Seems not to match with what other reports have stated… I know Axe is very sceptical to the F-35. Has he misrepresented the report?
He could be also lying. If someone makes that sort of claims they should have at least some evidence to back it up.
Blast from the past.
I’m starting to see why Sanem wishes that Finland wouldn’t replace Hornets with more modern fighters and it has nothing to do with saving money. Someone is little bit afraid that Russian fighters would have to fly against F-35’s…
1. Finland needs a new fighter jet. Russia is a military thread and only someone living in a cave thinks it’s not.
2. Finland is going to have war against Russia if Russians attack or try same little green men BS they are doing in Ukraine.
3. Just because some people have fetish towards UCAV’s it doesn’t mean that such vehicles are capable to do air fighting. As pointed out before UCAV’s must be able to perform air combat duties on their own without any human assistance since jamming would make them useless otherwise. I’m still waiting evidence that sort of UCAV’s are going to fly by 2030…
4. Brazil deal and other such information prove that Gripen NG is far more expensive than 43 million. Did I mention not one Gripen NG has ever flown yet?
Pakistani news claim that Sri Lanka ordered 12 JF-17 fighters. I guess we get more official announcement soon enough.
Not a single F-35 was “shot down” during the joint-force Green Flag exercises testing the jet and its pilots’ prowess operating it in a contested air-support role in the Western U.S. this month, according to U.S. Air Force Lt. Col. Cameron Dadgar, head of the exercise and leader of the 549th Combat Training Sqdn. at Nellis AFB, Nevada.
http://aviationweek.com/defense/f-35-unscathed-hostile-fire-green-flag