Matt!

Originally posted by matt
Australia?

You barstard!

Do you even know what we have??? 😡

For the record, one of our F-111C’s once penetrated the defensive shield of US Navy carrier task force and flew over the carrier island during an exercise. AFAIK we are the only air force the world to accomplish that. We have have one of the highest standards of crew training in the world.

What a Great Topic!

I asked the same thing of fighters in the AFM forum.
I think it depends on the class of airliner, it’s very difficult to pick one, it depends on the role. I can’t believe how much support there is here for the Tristar! I can’t stand the way the third engine is incorporated into the tail. Harmonious…NOT! One of my worst.

I know it sounds like racism, but I can’t appreciate any of the Russian stuff except the Tu-144. They all have too many frames around the cockpit glazing and they look a little unrefined in their execution from an aesthetic point of view.

Although the Airbus product is undoubtedly commercially sound, and it’s great to see a company offering a balance to Boeing’s product, I think the Airbus fleet looks a little too generic. It lacks soul.

There are a great many ugly looking things, mostly from the 50’s, like the Argosy, the Bristol Freighter, but I can’t remember them because I tend to focus on the beautiful ones, which I shall now do: I’ve always liked the 50 series DC-8’s and the -62 far better than the B707. Far more elegant and graceful. I think for the time being the B757 represents the quintessential narrow body until the Sonic Cruiser comes along (will that be classed as a narrow body?) I would have said the absolute definitive shape for a subsonic wide-body airliner was the B767-200 until the B777-200 came along. I like the turboprop Do328 a great deal as well. It’s very slick. The Grumman Gulfstream GV is very elegant as well. I can easily understand why someone would like the B747, and I actually like the SP as well because of its tall tail. There will always be a special place in my heart for the B2707-300, but the most elegant, striking, harmonious, beautiful aircraft of all time would have to be the Concorde. Without a doubt.

Grow up, Sauron.

Is the American psyche so fragile that it can’t handle a little criticism? The problem with the American perception of the world is that ANYTHING that is said against America is viewed as ficticious. Americans cannot handle criticism of any kind, no matter how well backed up it is by evidence. Have you offered in this debate one shred of evidence to counter Suhail’s claims? I have read more than one account of the way foreigners are treated by US immigration officials. The US and its people are not better than the rest of the world, and they are not incapable of injustice, abuse, and oppression. American people are just as fallible as any other race on this planet. The sympathy of the world towards America in its time of crisis will run thin if the American people continue to display attitudes of arrogance and ignorance of the their government’s policies and world affairs.

RE: PAINTERS

Are you talking about spray painters or designers?