I didn’t know that R.J.Mitchell had no honours – that is pretty apalling and yet so typically British. Does Sidney Cam have any formal recognition for his excellent and arguably more important work?
I cringe every time I pass “John Lennon” airport. Especially since the sign reads “Above us only sky” – it comes across to me as being horribly cheap and tacky. Locals still refer to it as “Speke Airport” or just “Liverpool Airport” and from farther afield it seems to be “Liverpool John Lennon Airport”.
Personally, I prefer a geographical name.
As for Moggy – a moderator who doesn’t know everything ?? Disgusting. I hope you’re ashamed of yourself! :diablo:
Roy.
I just have to share.
After three and a half years, I tonight test fitted the instrument panels to my sea hawk cockpit for the very first time. What a difference it makes to see all the goodies in their proper place!
The cross-rail on which the main panel and gunsight are mounted is badly damaged and I thought I would have major problems mounting the panels. Instead, they just popped right into place.
Boy am I stoked!! Will post some piccies in the next few days.
Roy.
Pah… those are girlie cockpits! Here’s a mans office.
http://wv838.com/nasty/front2.jpg
YAY!! Another Sea Hawk!!
About time this beautiful aircraft got more limelight. Excellent news. AW certainly did build them well and I’m sure this will stand her in good stead now. I eagerly await more news & pictures.
If the horrible work thing didn’t keep getting in the way I’d be down to the MAM like a shot – with my overalls, naughty jokes and whatever boxes of sea hawk bits I have lying around.
Roy.
Thanks for all the replies. Does anybody own any?
I suspect a lot of us do.
Mine (awaiting restoration) is here: http://wv838.com/eject.html
Roy.
I suspect the reasons are financial. The BA aircraft will draw more (paying) people than the Miles will. Keeping aircraft outdoors is a nightmare and I just pray they have the people to keep on top of the cleaning and preservation that will be required.
If they really have taken on four of the BA aircraft – they are either plain dumb or know something we don’t.
I think it would be far better if they kept the Miles and dropped off the BA 1-11 here at Liverpool.
Discovery wings recently aired 3 hours of this kind of footage (inc the lightning one) with an hour each for the 40’s, 50’s and 60’s. Fantastic stuff and yes, I zapped it all to DVD 🙂
For what it’s worth… I’ve spent about 3.5 years collecting parts and repairing my sea hawk cockpit. I don’t get to spend very much time on this so it could have been done a lot quicker. The end is in sight for me now, I expect to apply the final paint in the next few weeks.
Space in which to work is a major consideration. The sea hawk was a great choice because with the short nose it will fit in a regular garage – although you can only work on one side at a time! The further your cockpit is from home, the less you’ll work on it and suitable storage space can be very very hard to find.
Skills – you will develop them all. Patience is a major requirement, restoration can take a while but it does become an obsession.
Collecting parts is an ongoing task. I check the ICC and Ebay as often as I can – you never know when that elusive part will apear. The cost of accumulating all these parts can be high too and you will not get your money back should you ever decide to sell up. (50 quid for a G-Meter!!)
One cost I hadn’t thought about was the cost of a suitable trailer. I was lucky and only paid 480 quid for a small double-axled car transporter and luckily I can weld so am able to modify this to suit.
I can give you a long list of reasons to avoid cockpit ownership but the joy of taking a lump of crud and turning it into a shiny example of aviation magic discounts them all by a long way.
All I need now is to find her a home. No point having a cockpit in your garage, the whole idea is to make it available to all. Any offers??
Roy.
That would do the trick. I’d prefer a more permanent (and non damaging) method though. Guess the thing to do is get it on the trailer and see what falls where.
Very true but this is the only way I get to fly Javelins, Gannets, Lightnings and other splendid toys.
I flew one out of Liverpools EGGP this morning… flew under the Runcorn bridge, demolished Wales, and was home in time for tea’n’biccies.
Roy.
I think the sea hawk cockpit is close to a ton in weight and although it won’t blow away in the wind, I’m a little wary of lateral forces when towing. I’ll have a think and a sketch for some sort of cradle. Mounting her so she’s level (ooer missus!) will throw even more weight to the back. I did pester Stuart for pics of his mountings but he’s horrible and mean and wouldn’t share 😉
MY biggest concern at the moment is mounting my cockpit to its trailer. The cockpit is pretty **** heavy and I wonder how others have coped ?
Also, while I’ve a god mounting point at the front (nosewheel pivot point) there’s nothing of substance at the rear – bolting through the skin seems inadequate.
Comments please?
Roy.
A UH-1 when aged about 10. All I can remember is being sh*t-scared and shaken to bits. Favourite has to be a Schweitzer 300 when the pilot said “you have control” and I replied “you think??”.
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