Any info on when the Indians arive and leave?? Are they going to be all the time at Waddington and how many aircraft will come??

Six MKIs,will participate in an exercise with the RAF.No idea about the date .

The IN Sea Harriers are earmarked for EL-M/2032 for the current upgrade,the Jags still has the Agave.

Or this might be of any help?

http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/IAF/Images/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=1064&g2_serialNumber=2

Armed with four R-27RE1 (AA-10 Alamo-C) and six R-73RDM2 (AA-11 Archer) air-to-air missiles, a Su-30K goes vertical

Here are some specs…
MiG-29k-http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/NAVY/MiG-29K.html

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/russia/mig-29k.htm
http://www.aeronautics.ru/nws002/afm125.htm

Su-30MKK-http://www.sinodefence.com/airforce/fighter/su30.asp

Indian to acquire crystal maze missile

It’s actually Popeye Lite or Havelite being redesignated for the IAF as Crystal Maze.

What d’ya guys think of this?

http://www.bellona.no/en/international/russia/nuke-weapons/nonproliferation/39412.html

Nuclear subs on lease from Russia to India

ST. PETERSBURG—The construction of a training centre for the Indian military in Sosnovy Bor, 70 kilometers west of St. Petersburg, confirms Russia’s intentions to lease nuclear submarines to India, said Green World Chairman Oleg Bodrov.

The international centre for submariners and saliors.
http://www.greenworld.org.ru

Vera Ponomaryova, 2005-08-16 15:56

The international centre will open in September in the town that also hosts the Leningrad Nuclear Power Plant, and will train some 300 Indian naval officers.

Sosnovy Bor is home to the Russian Training Centre for Officers of the Russian Navy which houses working nuclear reactors of the type found on nuclear submarines. These reactors are used to test nuclear fuel and other technologies applicable to nuclear submarine reactors. A building recently went up along side the training centre, where Indian specialists will apparently be schooled.

According to Green World, the building went up in record time following the visit of Russian President Vladimir Putin to India last December.

What is the new building?
A spokesman for the Sosnovy Bor administration confirmed to Bellona Web that the international training centre had been built, but had no specific information about the programme of study or the number of officers who will study there.

Bellona’s Blue Report
Prior to 1991, crews of Soviet submarines were trained in three locations: Paldisky (Estonia); Sevastopol (Ukraine) and Sosnovy Bor.
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According to the spokesman, the new building will not house any special equipment or installations—such as nuclear reactors—but is only a wing for classrooms and has no relation to the nuclear industry.

Bodrov, who earlier worked at the Alexandrov Scientific and Technical Research institute (NITI in its Russian abbreviation) where tests of new submarines prototypes are carried out, clarified how such a center would be built. “As far as I can judge from my own experience at [NITI] the centre would hold simulators—computers that imitate submarines.”

An Akula class submarine.
Bellona

Nuclear Submarines for rent?
Bodrov said that the training of Indian submariners in Sosnovy Bor was a testament to the notion that Russia has not given up on its plans of leasing nuclear submarines. Representatives of the Russian Ministry of Foreign affairs and the Ministry of Defense said they were not ready to comment on the potential nuclear submarine leasing.

Nonetheless, India’s defense minister, Pranab Mukharjee, said that negotiations about obtaining a Russian nuclear submarine were underway. At the same time, Mukharjee said that, as yet, the sides were not bound by “any obligations relative to the acquisition by the Indian side of an Akula class submarine.” Mukharjee said the conclusion of any deals hinged on “various international obligations and agreements.”

Representatives of various Russian ministries have also spoken many times of similar intentions. Russian Navy Chief Admiral Vladimir Kuroyedov announced in early 2002 his readiness to lease two nuclear submarines to India. It was planned that the first sub would to India in 2004. But the Indian side did not follow up with any official commentary to Kuroyedov’s words.

Discussion of this contract was again taken up in the press toward the beginning of last year, but is was denies by Russian Defense Minister Sergei Ivanov.

Now, according to Green World, “Leasing India two third generation multi-purpose submarines with the option to buy them, as many media reports indicated in late 2004, is apparently becoming a reality.”

Bodrov commented further, asking “otherwise, why train some 300 Indian submariners in Russia? That constitutes 4 Akula crews.”

Russian has experience in leasing nuclear subs to India. In January 1988, India leased three Soviet-era Skat class—known as Charlie class in NATO designation—multi-purpose submarines, equipped with eight nuclear missile installations. After the term of the lease ran out, the subs were returned to Russia and decommissioned.

“If India is sending its submariners to us to learn how to operate their submarines, then that likely means a number of nuclear sub leasing agreements exist,” said Alexander Nikitin, who heads Bellona’s St. Petersburg office, the Environmental Right’s Centre.

“Moreover, such a scheme was already worked out in 1988—then the theoretical preparation of the crews took place in Vladivostok, and the practical training in the submarines themselves with Russian sailors aboard.”

Bodrov thinks that this time, the matter concerns the building of two Akula class submarines, which is taking place at the Amur Shipbuilding yard. Current published figures indicate that the two Akulas—one 70 to 85 percent complete and the other 40 to 60 percent complete—will cost India some $400m. The leasing costs would amount to some $25m a year.

The construction of both submarines, on shore infrastructure for them and training of the crews could run Russia, according to experts, some $2 billion.

It is worth bearing in mind that the Akula class sub is a Project 971 nuclear strike submarine—one of the fastest-moving submarines in the Russian fleet. Their crews consist of 73 sailor. The subs carry OK-650 type reactors. The subs are outfitted with four 650 millimeter torpedo tubes and as many 533 millimeter tubes. Akulas are armed with winged Granit torpedoes carrying nuclear warheads, under water missiles and missile torpedoes of the “Shkval,” “Vodopad,” and “Veter” types.

The Admiral Gorshkov aircraft carrier.
http://www.gov.karelia.ru

Russia-Indian military co-operation
It is noteworthy that Russia already has experience selling diesel submarines and other weapons to India. Between 1968 and 1971, India purchased eight submarines of project number I-641 and I-641K, eight Project 159AE battle cruisers, eight Project Project 205E missile cruisers and several other assistance vessels.

During 1983 to 1991, India completed its navy with the purchase from the then-USSR of three Project 61ME destroyers, three projects 1234E corvettes, six Project 1258E mine-sweepers, and eight Project 877EKM (NATO Kilo class) submarines.

Then, on January 20th, 2004, India purchased from Russia in one of the biggest contracts to date the Admiral Gorshkov aircraft carrier, built in 1978. The Russian firm Rosoboroneksport took upon itself the modernisation of the ship and equipping it with state of the at weapons systems and deck-borne aviation, such as MiG 29Ks, and Ka-27 and Ka-31 anti-submarine helicopters.

At present the foundation of the Indian Navy is nine diesel Kilo submarines from Russia’s Rubin graving yard in St. Petersburg and several ships analogous to the West German JKL 209/1500 type.

Proliferation Risks
In the opinion of ecologists, the coming submarine lease deal poses a serious threat to international security, stimulating, as it does, the Indian-Pakistani nuclear arms race.

“Arming of third world countries is a very dangerous business that can lead to military escalation in the east,” said Vladimir Chuprov, coordinator of energy programmes at Greenpeace Russia.

Chuprov said that selling weapons to India was a “regurgitation of the Cold War.”

”Kremlin bureaucrats still live on the fundamentals of the last century, considering the basic task of the state to be wide-scale preparation for war, arming India, North Korea and other countries.”

Chuprov continued saying that a submarine can contain up to 10 kilograms of plutonium in its spent nuclear fuel. “And even though nuclear scientists are usually specify that this is not weapons quality plutonium, energy plutonium still explodes,” he said.

India is one of four influential countries that are not signatories to the Non-Proliferation Treaty.

A new installation—a new target for terrorists
According to Green World’s Bodrov, the current deal not only sharpens the situation in Southeast Asia, but implies another danger: Placing the training centre in Sosnovy Bor puts the city on the radar of terrorists.

At the Leningrad Nuclear Power Plant alone there are four reactors of the Chernobyl-type RMBK 1000, several naval reactors at NITI, temporary storage for highly radioactive waste from the nuclear power plant, and enough highly toxic waste to constitute dozens of Chernobyls. The Northwest Russian regional facility of RADON for the outdoor storage of medium and high level nuclear waste also operates in Sosnovy Bor as does the Ekomet-S firm, a smelting plant for radioactive metals.

“The appearance in Sosnovy Bor of an international Russian-Indian centre for nuclear cooperation in the military sphere could create a nuclear and radiological dangerous installation on the Russia Baltic into a target for international terrorism,” said Bodrov.